Kitchen Range Project

[BrokenolMarine]

With the Biden Admin thinking about banning Gas Stoves, we decided to replace the aging 36" gas stove in our kitchen while we still could. Miss T started to do her research and decided to replace it with a 30" wide model instead of splurging with the 36" for simple financial reasons. We didn't need the gas stove in the kitchen to do miracles, just cook, bake, broil. She didn't want Air Fry, Convection this and built in that. Didn't even have to be self cleaning. We are pretty neat in our kitchen habits anyway. The problem with the 36" models is that pretty much start with a bunch of extras and go UP from there.

After a week or so of research, she found a name brand she liked and it was in stock at Home Depot. Price point? $700. Now I had a new kitchen project, design filler to take up the 3+ inches on either side of the new stove. Rather than dead space, I came up with a pull out slider on one side to hold spices; and a fixed thin cabinet on the other to hold the huge cookie sheets and muffin tin. SHE approved the idea, now up to me to make it happen. Here is the new range, it's NOT centered in this pic. We were in the middle of leveling the legs.

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[BrokenolMarine]

She looked online, and tried to find matching countertop material. No joy, the counters are a couple decades old. If we did find the same material it probably wouldn't match anyway, ours have probably faded significantly over the last twenty years. Looking into replacing all the counters? Nope, rather expensive. I suggested cutting board design shoulders on the edges to butt up to the stove to fill the space. A thumbs up from the boss.

The thin filler cabinets will be made from poplar with oak faces, and I found a slab of black walnut large enough to make the two cutting board countertops and back splashes. I started on the rough sketches to work out the two cabinet layouts and measurements and their bases. The storage cabinet will be fairly simple, but the pull out spice rack will be a tad more complicated, requiring drawer pulls and accommodating the gas line at the rear.

The walnut slab:

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I set up the table saw and dust collection for turning the rough slab into the pieces I needed. Before beginning on the table saw, I cut the slab into two 26" long pieces.

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I didn't try and cut it in large passes. I made cuts no more than 1" per pass, and flipped the slab on each pass, then raised the blade another 1" after two passes. The first piece I only had to cut once as it had one flat edge. The second piece had to have two sides squared up and was more complicated. But both were eventually done. From the leftovers, I chopped two 6" to 7" pieces and set the saw up for 1" thick pieces for backsplash and repeated the process to get those done.

The rough work was done and once we are close on both cabinets I can begin to finish the cutting board counter top inserts.

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[BrokenolMarine]

I have worked up the rough drawing and then a mock up from scraps to insure the spices will fit. Miss T said when I build the spice pullout to leave the back off, and use a second dowel, that way she can access the spices from either side of the pullout in case she is working from another counter instead of the stove. Makes sense to me.

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Have already made changes to the sketch and adjustments to the design.
Ways to go, but we'll get there. I enjoy the challenge. I bought top of the line drawer pulls, with steel construction and steel bearings. Should outlast us.

Watch this space.

[markiver54]

Nice range report, That looks like a real nice one! Great idea for the pull out space fillers as well. Will be watching to see the finished project..

[Hatchdog]

Nice range report, That looks like a real nice one! Great idea for the pull out space fillers as well. Will be watching to see the finished project..

My thoughts exactly, a very different but awesome range report. Looking forward to following along and man, I sure wish I had half of your abilities.

[BrokenolMarine]

A peek at one of the updated sketches for the pullout spice rack.

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There will be a base that is 3 inches wide, 3-1/2" tall, and 23" long, extending back nearly to the wall, behind the rack for stability. It will have an Oak face to match the oak Kick Plate trim of the existing cabinets and the Oak Faux Door on the pull out will meet with it. I continue to review the numbers and design until I start the build, modifying and correcting as needed. The walnut cutting board top will be mounted to the existing counter above the pullout with the drawer slide anchored to the underside, and the other drawer pull mounted on top of the base. Miss T wants the Cutting board counter top on the right side to be 1/4" proud to keep the contents of that side from sliding off of the counter toward the stovetop. (A kosher cutting board set) She asks and she receives.

[Mags]

With the Biden Admin thinking about banning Gas Stoves, we decided to replace the aging 36" gas stove in our kitchen while we still could. Miss T started to do her research and decided to replace it with a 30" wide model instead of splurging with the 36" for simple financial reasons. We didn't need the gas stove in the kitchen to do miracles, just cook, bake, broil. She didn't want Air Fry, Convection this and built in that. Didn't even have to be self cleaning. We are pretty neat in our kitchen habits anyway. The problem with the 36" models is that pretty much start with a bunch of extras and go UP from there.

After a week or so of research, she found a name brand she liked and it was in stock at Home Depot. Price point? $700. Now I had a new kitchen project, design filler to take up the 3+ inches on either side of the new stove. Rather than dead space, I came up with a pull out slider on one side to hold spices; and a fixed thin cabinet on the other to hold the huge cookie sheets and muffin tin. SHE approved the idea, now up to me to make it happen. Here is the new range, it's NOT centered in this pic. We were in the middle of leveling the legs.


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I'm guessing from the context and the picture the new stove is propane. Good choice if so.

[BrokenolMarine]

It's natural gas, as is the hot water heater and the furnace.

[RetiredSeabee]

It appears that you have an electrical outlet to move as well.

[BrokenolMarine]

The outlet works okay there, the range has to sit forward enough due to the plumbing for the gas that the electric can opener power cord isn't affected. The plug for the range is down behind the range about two feet off the floor.

[Sir Henry]

It's natural gas, as is the hot water heater and the furnace.

I believe they are only doing away with Natural Gas. As far as I know propane is safe.

[daytime dave]

It's natural gas, as is the hot water heater and the furnace.

I believe they are only doing away with Natural Gas. As far as I know propane is safe.

Lucky me, I have natural gas going to my house in the country. I also have a gas stove, hot water heater and home heating. I just replaced the professional stove and range hood in my home last year. They should be good for a while. Cooking with gas is the best in my opinion.

I too am looking forward to how your sliders come out.

[markiver54]

It's natural gas, as is the hot water heater and the furnace.

I believe they are only doing away with Natural Gas. As far as I know propane is safe.

Lucky me, I have natural gas going to my house in the country. I also have a gas stove, hot water heater and home heating. I just replaced the professional stove and range hood in my home last year. They should be good for a while. Cooking with gas is the best in my opinion.

I too am looking forward to how your sliders come out.

I've always joked with people about the term " hot water heater ". I know almost everyone says it that way, but I choose to just say " water heater ".
If my water was already hot, then I don't need to heat it. Sorry, couldn't resist. OCD kikn' in I guess.

[BrokenolMarine]

There are a lot of phrases like that in the English Language.. LOL

[daytime dave]

Marine, I'm glad she found something she liked that was in stock.
I had Thermador for the range and the hood before. Niether could be repaired. To replace with the same things was way over my budget, plus the amount of repair reciepts the previous owner had kept, told me always repairing might be in my future.
I found a family owned appliance store 40 miles from me and had three choices for the range and one for the hood. The range I chose was made in the USA, Bosch, and I had to wait 6.5 months for it to be delivered and installed. The other ones were not made in States or way too expensive. The hood, Wolf, was 10 months to be delivered and then I needed a contractor to install it. I came in just at budget for the project.
So far, the items were worth the wait. I do the cooking at home and use all the bells and whistles on the stove. I was able to do my canning this year with ease.

[BrokenolMarine]

We didn't want to get a lot of bells and whistles on items we buy these days... contractors and repair men are hard to find. We are lucky that we have an appliance guy, but they are IN town only once per week, on tuesdays. They come from about 90 minutes away from a small appliance shop, but are very good, friendly, and it's a family run shop. We recommended them to a neighbor and he loaded his Fridge on the back of his truck and drove it to them, they turned it around in a couple days and since he took it to them, they dropped it off for free the next time they were in town.

[BrokenolMarine]

Set up the planer this morning and ran the four roughed pieces thru to take out the bulk of the lines and uneven areas. The 2" pieces took about ten to fifteen passes as both sides needed to be pretty smooth due to their application. I will do a bit more work with my card scrapers and some sandpaper on those. The bottom and sides can get by with about a 400 grit finish, but the top and front edges on those two will probably get about a 600 to 800 grit treatment.

The one inch backsplash pieces only need a single face, and the sides and ends, the back face will be smooth enough from the planer as it will face the wall.

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I should be able to start cutting the poplar pieces in the next day or so.
(I also did some knife work on the Damascus knife today.)

[BrokenolMarine]

Headed out to the shop this morning to work on the kitchen range cabinet project. First things first, had to get set up to start the actual cutting and assembly. You have all heard me refer to equipment stored in the "boathouse." I'm sure some of you wonder "Where is this boathouse?" You have seen the red door at the back left of the woodshop... it's the entry to the boathouse from the woodshop. HERE is a look inside the mysterious boathouse.

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The red door is visible at the right rear of the boathouse. We have always called this the boathouse because when we first moved here, the kayak trailer and two kayaks were also stored here until we added the new barn and they were moved into a stall in the old bard and CHAINED to the wall there. There is still a kayak hanging on the wall here. I also store NON climate sensitive equipment and tools here, and I have wood stacked against the left wall. OFF the floor on blocks Slab size, 2' x 12' some of it. New project stacks, like the oak and poplar for the project today.

I also had to get the clamp rack and roll it into the shop as I'll need a number of them in this stage of the project.

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In addition, I set up the Miter saw, and the vacuum, I'll be making a number of cuts to prep for assembly. The cuts will come from the last sketch and I'll temporarily assemble the project to check the lengths before proceeding. Oh, I'll need more space for assembly than the regular woodworking bench, so I cleaned off the cutting table and the knife shaping table and adjusted their height so they matched.

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[BrokenolMarine]

Working from the sketch, I made each cut, measuring carefully and cutting to, but leaving the fine pencil mark to insure accurate length. Once all the pieces were cut, I began a rough assembly to check the fit and length of the pieces. I didn't worry about spacing of the interior shelves at this point, just that the layout was square to check for the measurements. The drawn concept has become physical reality.

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Look carefully inside the shelving, what are those silver things? Oh, yeah... the 123 blocks have once again made their appearance. They are heavy, so they stay in place. They are machined to perfect 90 degree corners, so I can use them to assure the layout is square. No going corner to corner with the tri-square and trying to move one corner and pulling another out. This is just a test, no glue, no fasteners in place.

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I will come back out and run each component across the table saw to rip them to width. Once done, I'll reassemble them and began spacing the shelves and marking the sides. Once done, the holes for assembly can be drilled, and the notches for the dowels can be cut. We will make progress. The base and the walnut counter top will be next for this side. I'll cut the oak face last.

[DsGrouse]

That looks awesome.

I've had two problems with the last half dozen gas ranges I've had. At some point, someone turns on the self-clean function, which cooks the oven's thermostats causing them to prematurely fail.

I'm sorely frustrated with my current oven. It will only turn on if you turn it on to 400. If you open the door, the oven shuts off and will not reheat until it is under 200 degrees.

I've kids in college, and other priorities right now. Other wise I would be replacing the oven and stove top.