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Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:27 am
by schreck5
Has anyone used shims from Trigger Shims on the BBS 45colt? I dont see where they make a shim package specificaly for the H012c. Bruce

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:33 am
by ESquared
The only shims I've ever seen or heard about are those that limit side-to-side lever movement. Is that what you're shimming?

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:55 am
by Mistered
Has anyone used shims from Trigger Shims
What exactly do you mean by this?

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:55 am
by schreck5
Yes Esquared, the kit includes 1 set each for the trigger, hammer, and lever. Trigger shims is the company that is making them.

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:29 pm
by Mistered
Trigger shims is the company that is making them.
Got it!

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:18 pm
by ESquared
No experience with them here, nor do I know of any (you might "Search" for some keywords).

Are needing/wanting to shim just the lever or is there something about the trigger and/or hammer that you're tweaking? I guess I'm not following the benefit(s), as my Henry levers' triggers have been pretty good out of the box. But then again, I'm not sure what "shimming them" brings to the party.

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:11 pm
by schreck5
Im wanting to take some of the slop out of the lever. I probably wont use the other shims, but they come as a set so.... There is really no problem as far as function goes. As a side note, i will be putting a williams reciever sight on the rifle. It uses the same hole spacing amd thread size that is on the Henry. I called Williams and they said to get the sight thats fits the Marlin 336.... of which i just happen to have a JM stamped one. I did some quick measuring., and sure enough, hole spacing is the same.

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:51 pm
by Mistered
As a side note, i will be putting a williams reciever sight on the rifle. It uses the same hole spacing amd thread size that is on the Henry.
When you do get the Williams sight mount it in REVERSE and flip the windage slide around so it is level. It will fit better without hanging off the rear of the receiver.
And FWIW the slop in the lever is normal. If you feel you must shim it however I would not use steel shims but recommend you cut your own out of brass shim stock.
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Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:02 am
by tractortad
schreck5 wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:27 am
Has anyone used shims from Trigger Shims on the BBS 45colt? I dont see where they make a shim package specificaly for the H012c. Bruce
We have their lever shims on a few of our Henrys - they work well. I think you could probably fit their H006 kit onto an H0012 Henry - the lever screws are the same size/thread. Great little mom&pop company out of Nebraska...

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:20 am
by schreck5
Thank you very much. I thought more people might be using the shims, but i guess not. I went ahead and odered a set and while i was at it, i ordered a set for my Bisley Blackhawk .45 colt as it is showing some galling on the hammer. Thanks agian, Bruce

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:00 pm
by Ojaileveraction
If you are getting a Williams 336 sight it may hang over the hammer a bit. It dose on the brass models at least.
I don't know what your plans as far a shoot are. If your going to need a lot of target adjustments then an FP modle allows for adding target knobs at a later point.
schreck5 wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:11 pm
Im wanting to take some of the slop out of the lever. I probably wont use the other shims, but they come as a set so.... There is really no problem as far as function goes. As a side note, i will be putting a williams reciever sight on the rifle. It uses the same hole spacing amd thread size that is on the Henry. I called Williams and they said to get the sight thats fits the Marlin 336.... of which i just happen to have a JM stamped one. I did some quick measuring., and sure enough, hole spacing is the same.

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:43 pm
by ESquared
Ojaileveraction wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:00 pm
If you are getting a Williams 336 sight it may hang over the hammer a bit. It dose on the brass models at least.
I don't know what your plans as far a shoot are. If your going to need a lot of target adjustments then an FP modle allows for adding target knobs at a later point.
schreck5 wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:11 pm
Im wanting to take some of the slop out of the lever. I probably wont use the other shims, but they come as a set so.... There is really no problem as far as function goes. As a side note, i will be putting a williams reciever sight on the rifle. It uses the same hole spacing amd thread size that is on the Henry. I called Williams and they said to get the sight thats fits the Marlin 336.... of which i just happen to have a JM stamped one. I did some quick measuring., and sure enough, hole spacing is the same.
See Ed's post above (and pic). Seems he just flipped it around and no overhang! Who knew?

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:14 pm
by Ojaileveraction
Ed's image is of Williams WGRS 336 receiver sight.
The Williams 336 im taking about is another model. You can flip around the 336 also, but you can't reverse the appiture as you can with the WGRS.
Williams FP/tk 336
Williams FP 336
Williams 5d 336
See Ed's post above (and pic). Seems he just flipped it around and no overhang! Who knew?d
BTW Ed blew some minds when he figured that whole thing out !

Re: Shims for H012c (45colt)

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:42 pm
by ESquared
Got it, Ojai. I have zero knowledge of Williams lineup, so good catch. It's kind of like figuring out the right Lyman Globe.

Yeah, Ed should just open a gunsmithing operation.