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Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:59 pm
by deano5150
1I’ve had my BBB 357 since January and I’ve put over 500 rounds through it. All but 20 rounds were Monarch 357 magnum SJHP brass cased. Monarch is Academy Sports’ private label which is made by PPU. At the time I received my rifle, this Ammo was on sale for $15.99 (marked down from $22.99). So I bought all they had. It seems to be clean burning and very accurate. The other 20 rounds I shot were 158gr 38 special. Out of the box my rifle was shooting to the right. I tapped the rear sight to the left a slight bit and presto! Now the windage seems to be spot on. The 357 rounds shoot to POA but the 38 special prints high left. No matter because I’m mostly going to shoot 357. Here are some pictures of my best groups from a rest. I’m no marksman but I’m very impressed with them. Especially out to 50 yards. At that range, the front bead covers all but the top edge of my paper plate targets. I love this rifle! I plan on getting a BBS carbine in 357 soon. As much as I love the BBB, the steel carbine has some advantages. It’s lighter, shorter and won’t blind you in bright sunlight. Also, the rubber buttpad sticks to your shoulder better than the slippery brass one.

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:00 pm
by deano5150
I can’t bring myself to put a scope on it but I’d love to know what size groups that would produce.

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:08 pm
by Cofisher
That is very consistent. Excellent shooting!

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:31 pm
by deano5150
Cofisher wrote:That is very consistent. Excellent shooting!
Thanks, Cofisher!

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:36 pm
by JEBar
well done indeed ... my bet is that as you become more and more acquainted with your 357, those good groups will tighten up even more

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:47 pm
by BigAl52
Im with you on the scope on a lever gun. But someday I might eat those words as I aint as good as I once was in the eyes dept. Nice shooting 357 in a lever gun is alot of fun.

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:55 pm
by shootinthecinders
I’m no marksman but I’m very impressed with them.
I respectfully disagree with your “no marksman” statement and agree that you have every reason to be impressed. Great shooting!

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:57 pm
by deano5150
shootinthecinders wrote:
I’m no marksman but I’m very impressed with them.
I respectfully disagree with your “no marksman” statement and agree that you have every reason to be impressed. Great shooting!
Thank you for the kind words!

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:15 am
by Pilsner
Wow those are some sweet groups there!

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:16 am
by deano5150
Pilsner wrote:Wow those are some sweet groups there!
Thanks!

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:26 am
by Steve51
Good Shootin!

I once had a scope on my .44 Big Boy Brass and it improved my accuracy but I also did not like the look of a scope on a lever gun so am back to iron sights. I replaced the buckhorn sight with a Skinner barrel mount sight.

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:33 am
by PT7
Echo the above statements about your impressive POIs, Dean. I didn't see anything about the sight you used, but looks like you're using the stock buckhorn rear sight? If so, your Range Report is even more impressive.

I also prefer the looks of a Henry rifle sans scope. You really don't need to "wonder" if you'd get smaller groups with another optic. I'd vote to keep your .357 stock, and I'd take any of your targets, any day. ;)

Well done!
PT7

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:17 am
by CT_Shooter
Great shooting, Deano. Thanks for posting the report and the photos. I'm impressed.

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:24 am
by ESquared
Nice work right there, Deano! I understand what you mean about the front sight basically covering things up at 50 yds, which makes your 50 yd groups even better.

You might consider the Skinner Peep and Lyman globe on the front as a nice middle ground between the buckhorns and a small scope. A set of Shaver inserts for the Lyman globe will get you to an even more exact sight picture. This pic is from my SGC, but you get the idea...

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:55 am
by deano5150
PT7 wrote:Echo the above statements about your impressive POIs, Dean. I didn't see anything about the sight you used, but looks like you're using the stock buckhorn rear sight? If so, your Range Report is even more impressive.

I also prefer the looks of a Henry rifle sans scope. You really don't need to "wonder" if you'd get smaller groups with another optic. I'd vote to keep your .357 stock, and I'd take any of your targets, any day. ;)

Well done!
PT7
The sights are all stock, PT. For awhile I had a Skinner barrel mounted peep on my Golden Boy 22LR. It worked and it looked great but my groups were not as tight. I ended up putting the factory rear sight back on. At some point I may put the Skinner back on. It’s certainly easier to pick up the front sight with the peep. And my eyes are showing signs of wear. :lol:

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:56 am
by deano5150
CT_Shooter wrote:Great shooting, Deano. Thanks for posting the report and the photos. I'm impressed.
Thanks!

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:59 am
by deano5150
ESquared wrote:Nice work right there, Deano! I understand what you mean about the front sight basically covering things up at 50 yds, which makes your 50 yd groups even better.

You might consider the Skinner Peep and Lyman globe on the front as a nice middle ground between the buckhorns and a small scope. A set of Shaver inserts for the Lyman globe will get you to an even more exact sight picture. This pic is from my SGC, but you get the idea...
I am very interested in your sight system. I’m planning on getting a BBS Carbine in 357 soon. I would be more willing to try different sights on that rifle and keep my brass babies stock.

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:41 pm
by ESquared
deano5150 wrote:
ESquared wrote:Nice work right there, Deano! I understand what you mean about the front sight basically covering things up at 50 yds, which makes your 50 yd groups even better.

You might consider the Skinner Peep and Lyman globe on the front as a nice middle ground between the buckhorns and a small scope. A set of Shaver inserts for the Lyman globe will get you to an even more exact sight picture. This pic is from my SGC, but you get the idea...
I am very interested in your sight system. I’m planning on getting a BBS Carbine in 357 soon. I would be more willing to try different sights on that rifle and keep my brass babies stock.
Sounds like a plan! If you haven't already, digi into the "Sights" sub-forum. Lots of posts on Skinners, Lyman globes, etc. Forum member TractorTad was my go-to expert on the Lyman globe front sight (they come in various heights, like all front sights, and there's math/geometry involved in figuring out which one to get; talk to Tad!).

Keep us posted on your progress. You'll love the BBS Carbine, lots of fans of that rifle around here!

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:22 am
by deano5150
ESquared wrote:
deano5150 wrote:
ESquared wrote:Nice work right there, Deano! I understand what you mean about the front sight basically covering things up at 50 yds, which makes your 50 yd groups even better.

You might consider the Skinner Peep and Lyman globe on the front as a nice middle ground between the buckhorns and a small scope. A set of Shaver inserts for the Lyman globe will get you to an even more exact sight picture. This pic is from my SGC, but you get the idea...
I am very interested in your sight system. I’m planning on getting a BBS Carbine in 357 soon. I would be more willing to try different sights on that rifle and keep my brass babies stock.
Sounds like a plan! If you haven't already, digi into the "Sights" sub-forum. Lots of posts on Skinners, Lyman globes, etc. Forum member TractorTad was my go-to expert on the Lyman globe front sight (they come in various heights, like all front sights, and there's math/geometry involved in figuring out which one to get; talk to Tad!).

Keep us posted on your progress. You'll love the BBS Carbine, lots of fans of that rifle around here!
Thanks for the advice! I’ll post when I get my new rifle. It may take a 2-3 months to afford one.

Re: Big Boy Brass 357 accuracy

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:48 pm
by TN Mark
Nice grouping. What kind of rest are you shooting from? A simple front support or are both ends secured in a rest?