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well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:01 pm
by DsGrouse
I was working through some chrono testing using 38spl.
According to the CS lady, this is the older two-piece design. There are no extra firing pins to send. It has to go back for the new one-piece design, which includes a new bolt.
Oh, joy.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:09 pm
by Vaquero
Sad they just can't send you a bolt.
Not like it's hard to replace.
RP
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:32 pm
by DsGrouse
I asked about the bolt, firing pin, etc. They want the rifle back. This makes me think there is more to the swap over than the bolt. I was hoping I could just drop in a new pin or bolt and keep going. Tis not to be. They've got a shipping label headed my way.
My dilemma is what to do with my muzzle device. It's rocksett'd on.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:43 pm
by Vaquero
I wouldn't think it should be an issue.
RP
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:37 pm
by Mags
DsGrouse wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:32 pm
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My dilemma is what to do with my muzzle device. It's rocksett'd on.
Call back and ask.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:03 am
by jstanfield103
Probably want to make sure the headspace is set correctly on the new bolt. Best to let them do it correctly.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 6:52 am
by rickhem
Headspace would be my guess as well.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:55 am
by Sir Henry
Third on the headspace.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:37 am
by DsGrouse
That is likely the reason they want it back.
I wonder if i should talk to them about my 45 colt, It has the same style bolt. Along with not grouping for squat with almost every lead ammo.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:51 pm
by Mags
Headspace would be my guess as well.
That and bolt lockup tuning.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:10 pm
by DsGrouse
Well, that sucks. I am an hour to an hour and twenty minutes from any UPS Customer Center that can take my return. There are no LISTED UPS hubs in Virginia. Within 80 minutes of driving one way, there are two UPS customer centers. I called both, they said they do not take any fire arm returns.
So... I have a call into Henry; maybe we can arrange a pickup.
From henry's email.
8. Drop off your packaged firearm at a UPS Hub or UPS Customer Center location. These locations are owned and operated by UPS. UPS Store locations and UPS Access Point Drop Off locations have their own policies and do not ship firearms.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:55 am
by jstanfield103
I believe the only time I sent a rifle back to Henry it was picked up at my house. Can't remember FedEx or UPS. But sometimes my memory is foggy.
If not any LGS should be able to send it back for probably a cheaper price. Especially the one you bought it at.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:33 am
by DsGrouse
jstanfield103 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:55 am
I believe the only time I sent a rifle back to Henry it was picked up at my house. Can't remember FedEx or UPS. But sometimes my memory is foggy.
If not any LGS should be able to send it back for probably a cheaper price. Especially the one you bought it at.
I am hoping I can arrange a pickup.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:09 am
by fortyshooter
How far are you from the UPS center in Chesterfield County....Willis Road area? Most returns I have done have been thru FedEx.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:21 pm
by DsGrouse
fortyshooter wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:09 am
How far are you from the UPS center in Chesterfield County....Willis Road area? Most returns I have done have been thru FedEx.
No idea UPS has scrubbed all those locations from its website. The one in ashland, at hanover air park, and apparently chesterfield are all gone.
https://locations.ups.com/us/en/va/chesterfield/
I just got off the phone with Henry, their option was to take it to a access point. IE a drop off location in a store.
These are the ones closest to me.
https://locations.ups.com/us/en/va/ashland/
How comfortable would you guys be dropping your rifle off at CVS for pick up.
My only other option is to wait for a day that UPS comes to my home, be here and hope my normal driver is willing to take it.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:55 pm
by DsGrouse
Welp that's just AWESOME.
I got off the phone with them when i wrote the previous email.
I came back to this.
Hi Aaron,
I have scheduled a UPS truck to pick up the firearm from your home.
They will print a new label when they arrive.
I am not able to give you a specific day or time they will arrive, but it is typically within 24-48 hours, and they will make 3 pick-up attempts.
Let me know if you have any questions
<Removed customer service member name>
Customer Service Representative
Customer Service: (866) 200-2354
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:02 pm
by DsGrouse
The rifle is home. I'm loading some 180grn subs to see how she does.

Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:15 pm
by DsGrouse
Well, I don't know if this is acceptable.
Testing shots to see how close the scope was.
180grn Hornaday XTP subsonics 1069fps average 50yds
I moved the scope from Point of aim to point of impact, same loads 5 shot group @ 50yds
Loaded the tube, and chamber and settled in. Three fliers, high went super, and was the fastest of the group. The low ones were me herfing it.
I went up to the deer stand and did some 100 yd shots; everything is hunky dory for deer season. 357 subsonic deer load found.
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:36 pm
by DsGrouse
I forgot to mention that these are suppressed groups. Griffin Bushwacker 36
Re: well, donkey do-little.
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:23 am
by DsGrouse
I can't believe the change in this rifle. I honestly wish i'd sent it back earlier. It has NEVER shot like this in the past. I went through my piles of worked up loads and tried them all out yesterday. With the exception of Matts's 158 grn SWC over CFE-p, everything grouped in the 1 to 2" groups at 50 yds. Many were sub-1-inch groups for a 5-shot group. I'd struggled for months to get groups under 2".
I chalked it up to my inexperience at reloading and proper load development. It's crazy fun. I dropped 300 rounds of load work ups yesterday while chronoing. I am stupidly happy and pleased.
So much so that I sent a thank you note and asked if I could have the same repair work done on my 45 colt. Since the 357 was out for repairs, I've been shooting the piss out of it. It's developed a habit of light primer strikes. So I hope the new single-piece firing pin and bolt are available for this also.
On a side note, the new bolt on the 357 bbx kicks the brass out beautifully. It was always lackluster before. If I didn't briskly, bordering on forcefully, work the action, it would jam. Now, even worked slowly from the bench, it flips the brass up in the air for you to catch. There are no more failures to eject. This wasn't really a problem I noticed until I didn't have to dig empty cases out of the chamber.
Stupidly, grinning idiot-level pleased with the repairs.
I took some 100 yd shots at a 6" plate and an 8-inch plate. Off-hand and delivered hits every time.
One thing to note load-wise: My previously low-pressure load for 180-grain subsonic using 244 is now showing signs of pressure levels, IE flattened primers. So I ran a few and checked the case volume with water. It changed from 27.3 grains of H20 down to 25.6. That changed the pressure from 14,700psi up to 16910. No, that's nowhere near the max, but it is worth noting. In changing the bolt and setting the headspace, they've changed the parameters of how the gun operates. So, if you get this repair done. Don't go firing high-pressure rounds until you figure out if your pressure levels will be significantly higher.