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Henry 30-30 Issues
- Mr. Neutron
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Re: Henry 30-30 Issues
More good advice on the O-ring!!! Thanks for that!!!
I got the only RPP lever take down knob they had in stock; model #145 in black. It has "WIN" and "30-30" on it. Last one on the right end in this pic:
https://rangerpointstore.com/Henry-lever-takedown-screw
It's sorta pricey ($29). But after I had this last feed jam I described earlier above happen during hunting this year, I wanted some "insurance" that I could deal with it a bit easier in the future, if needed. If nothing else, it makes tearing down enough to get the bolt out and clean my rifle easier.......
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but this also might help someone. I took a very narrow jeweler's file to the head of the OEM Henry lever pivot shoulder bolt, and made the slot wider to accept almost any decent sized screw driver. Takes a little patience and proceeding slowly. My Leatherman screw driver now fits this bolt, but not after it boogered it up a bit fixing the feed jam. Put some cold blue on it after I did the file job, and it actually doesn't look bad. It's just more convenient to use the RPP takedown screw when I don't happen to have a screwdriver handy. I drilled and tapped a pice of metal to fit the Henry shoulder bolt (10-32 threads, I think??) and clamped the metal in a vice while I filed it. A nut with the right threads would’ve been easier………
Added in EDIT: A pic of the widened lever shoulder bolt. Probably nothing new, and with the right file, easy to do….
I got the only RPP lever take down knob they had in stock; model #145 in black. It has "WIN" and "30-30" on it. Last one on the right end in this pic:
https://rangerpointstore.com/Henry-lever-takedown-screw
It's sorta pricey ($29). But after I had this last feed jam I described earlier above happen during hunting this year, I wanted some "insurance" that I could deal with it a bit easier in the future, if needed. If nothing else, it makes tearing down enough to get the bolt out and clean my rifle easier.......
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but this also might help someone. I took a very narrow jeweler's file to the head of the OEM Henry lever pivot shoulder bolt, and made the slot wider to accept almost any decent sized screw driver. Takes a little patience and proceeding slowly. My Leatherman screw driver now fits this bolt, but not after it boogered it up a bit fixing the feed jam. Put some cold blue on it after I did the file job, and it actually doesn't look bad. It's just more convenient to use the RPP takedown screw when I don't happen to have a screwdriver handy. I drilled and tapped a pice of metal to fit the Henry shoulder bolt (10-32 threads, I think??) and clamped the metal in a vice while I filed it. A nut with the right threads would’ve been easier………
Added in EDIT: A pic of the widened lever shoulder bolt. Probably nothing new, and with the right file, easy to do….
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Jimmie
An Okie living in Oregon
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An Okie living in Oregon
H009G
H004
H009BG
"Never miss a good chance to shut up." Will Rogers
"It's better to eat yer fruit before ya shoot it." youtuber WHO_TEE_WHO
Re: Henry 30-30 Issues
Thank You! Fair trade on exchange of ideas and advice!Mr. Neutron wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:01 am
I got the only RPP lever take down knob they had in stock; model #145 in black. It has "WIN" and "30-30" on it. Last one on the right end in this pic:
https://rangerpointstore.com/Henry-lever-takedown-screw
It's sorta pricey ($29). But after I had this last feed jam I described earlier above happen during hunting this year, I wanted some "insurance" that I could deal with it a bit easier in the future, if needed. If nothing else, it makes tearing down enough to get the bolt out and clean my rifle easier.......
I had been carrying a long thin screw driver to dig out jammed rounds.
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Re: Henry 30-30 Issues
Howdy Folks, sorry for not checking in and updating the progress. Been busy around the house and went on a deer hunting trip this past weekend.
I ended up calling Henry CS back that Monday and the guy I talked to said the brass magazine follower fixed that problem the majority of the time. He wouldn’t talk in any more detail citing they could not give troubleshooting advice. He offered to send a new tube and it arrived today. Unfortunately the problem still exists. I do notice some significant metal removal on the lever that looks suspicious. I talked to the owner and he said he had never taken the gun apart and that he had purchased it at a pawn shop. I will try to get some pics of the lever and post them. I will also try the twisting of follower tube trick as well. Thanks for the continued posts on this topic
I ended up calling Henry CS back that Monday and the guy I talked to said the brass magazine follower fixed that problem the majority of the time. He wouldn’t talk in any more detail citing they could not give troubleshooting advice. He offered to send a new tube and it arrived today. Unfortunately the problem still exists. I do notice some significant metal removal on the lever that looks suspicious. I talked to the owner and he said he had never taken the gun apart and that he had purchased it at a pawn shop. I will try to get some pics of the lever and post them. I will also try the twisting of follower tube trick as well. Thanks for the continued posts on this topic
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- Mr. Neutron
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Re: Henry 30-30 Issues
Mags' advice about doing that really helps with my rifle!I will also try the twisting of follower tube trick as well.
Hope you get all these nagging little things solved, Tejun!
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Jimmie
An Okie living in Oregon
H009G
H004
H009BG
"Never miss a good chance to shut up." Will Rogers
"It's better to eat yer fruit before ya shoot it." youtuber WHO_TEE_WHO
An Okie living in Oregon
H009G
H004
H009BG
"Never miss a good chance to shut up." Will Rogers
"It's better to eat yer fruit before ya shoot it." youtuber WHO_TEE_WHO
Re: Henry 30-30 Issues
Howdy Folks and Happy New Year !
Good news to report on this issue. I ordered a new lever from Henry. It arrived today and it solved the problem. The owner was adamant that the gun was new when purchased at a pawn shop but from what I could find, the H009 did not come with a big loop lever, which is what it had. The lever had some significant filing work done on it to remove the sharp edges which were distinctly different than on the new one. Installed it this afternoon and, although a little stiff, it worked as it should. I found one area that is showing signs of a “shiny spot” from cycling but before I do any adjustments I want the owner to do some breakin shooting for a bit. Will have him bring back after some shooting for a thorough cleaning and check that spot.
Good news to report on this issue. I ordered a new lever from Henry. It arrived today and it solved the problem. The owner was adamant that the gun was new when purchased at a pawn shop but from what I could find, the H009 did not come with a big loop lever, which is what it had. The lever had some significant filing work done on it to remove the sharp edges which were distinctly different than on the new one. Installed it this afternoon and, although a little stiff, it worked as it should. I found one area that is showing signs of a “shiny spot” from cycling but before I do any adjustments I want the owner to do some breakin shooting for a bit. Will have him bring back after some shooting for a thorough cleaning and check that spot.
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- Mr. Neutron
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Re: Henry 30-30 Issues
Depending on where the shiny spot is, you may be able to “move” the wear area away from whatever or wherever it’s rubbing with some shims.
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Jimmie
An Okie living in Oregon
H009G
H004
H009BG
"Never miss a good chance to shut up." Will Rogers
"It's better to eat yer fruit before ya shoot it." youtuber WHO_TEE_WHO
An Okie living in Oregon
H009G
H004
H009BG
"Never miss a good chance to shut up." Will Rogers
"It's better to eat yer fruit before ya shoot it." youtuber WHO_TEE_WHO
Re: Henry 30-30 Issues
It's a shame that we have to do an 'Afro American adjustment ' with shims or a file on rifles that should be engineered and built and leave the factory correctly for the money spentMr. Neutron wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:53 amDepending on where the shiny spot is, you may be able to “move” the wear area away from whatever or wherever it’s rubbing with some shims.
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Re: Henry 30-30 Issues
What you say is true, but, easy on the way you described it please. Thank you.ol'pole wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:34 pmIt's a shame that we have to do an 'Afro American adjustment ' with shims or a file on rifles that should be engineered and built and leave the factory correctly for the money spentMr. Neutron wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:53 amDepending on where the shiny spot is, you may be able to “move” the wear area away from whatever or wherever it’s rubbing with some shims.
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Re: Henry 30-30 Issues
Sometimes a broken spring, messed up button or dirt can cause it to have cycling issues.Tejun wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:04 pmHowdy from Deep East Texas !
Friend of mine came over yesterday and we were talking guns. He said he had a rifle he was about to toss in the lake. I asked him what kind of rifle. He went to his truck and brought back a Henry 30-30, said his wife had won it in a raffle last year. He proceeded to show me how the lever wouldn’t stay locked. He fiddled around and ended up getting a live round jammmed with the bolt open. I told him if he left it with me, I’d see if I could figure out. He handed it to me and said no hurry. After he left, I removed the lever and got the live round removed. Brought it in and did a complete disassembly and clean. Reassembled and put two dummy rounds in the tube and it cycled them fine. The lever would latch but not firmly. I was about to call him this morning and tell him to come try it but decided to load the magazine with more rounds. Well, it handles two ok but put a third round in the magazine and use the brass follower tube and the lever releases and cannot be latched. I called Henry CS this afternoon and the guy seemed rushed ( not typical experience I’ve had in past but it was late Friday afternoon) he told me it was probably the brass follower tube and suggested I call the accessories dept and order a new one. I’m having problems understanding how the follower tube could cause this issue ??
I don’t know the model. When I look on the Henry website, all the 30-30s (except brass) have the side port to load the rounds in the magazine. This rifle has no such port. The only way to load is via the mag tube.
Any of you have any experience with this problem ?
My buddy’s 45-70 had the same problem and a new (free/warranty) mag tube fixed it.
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