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Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:29 pm
by Steve
Anybody with some experience out there that would give me the pros and cons of a trigger job on a Big Boy?

Steve

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:31 pm
by JCN
Wow this is the first I've heard of someone considering trigger work on their Big Boy. Although I'm sure there is room for improvement, I certainly find mine to be adequate. I'm interested to hear if any of the forum members here have experience with this.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:22 am
by seak89
If my Henry trigger was any better I would think my old sniper rifle was back in hand and I'm not sure it was better.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:27 am
by Hitman
Both of mine have a little creep in them. It's not bad but I'm use to touch and go.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:36 am
by clovishound
Hitman wrote:Both of mine have a little creep in them. It's not bad but I'm use to touch and go.
The only time my trigger has a creep in it is when I'm shooting it. :roll:

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:14 pm
by JEBar
JCN wrote:Wow this is the first I've heard of someone considering trigger work on their Big Boy. Although I'm sure there is room for improvement, I certainly find mine to be adequate. I'm interested to hear if any of the forum members here have experience with this.
agree

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:52 pm
by Hitman
Steve wrote:Anybody with some experience out there that would give me the pros and cons of a trigger job on a Big Boy?

Steve
I guess me and you are the only one's here that has set behind a good trigger.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:19 pm
by Steve
Hitman wrote:
Steve wrote:Anybody with some experience out there that would give me the pros and cons of a trigger job on a Big Boy?

Steve
I guess me and you are the only one's here that has set behind a good trigger.
Just what I was thinking. This Big Boy will make an awesome plinking/target rifle at about 1-1/2 to 2 pounds trigger pull.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:08 pm
by Hitman
Steve wrote:
Hitman wrote:
Steve wrote:Anybody with some experience out there that would give me the pros and cons of a trigger job on a Big Boy?

Steve
I guess me and you are the only one's here that has set behind a good trigger.
Just what I was thinking. This Big Boy will make an awesome plinking/target rifle at about 1-1/2 to 2 pounds trigger pull.
That's right.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:00 pm
by RanchRoper
I'm not sure what's wrong with mine, but every time I pull the trigger there's this big bang sound...

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:24 pm
by clovishound
RanchRoper wrote:I'm not sure what's wrong with mine, but every time I pull the trigger there's this big bang sound...
I have the same problem. In addition, I've noticed afterward there is a strange little hole in the center of the piece of paper I hang in front of me. I'm sure there must be a correlation, but I just can't seem to put my finger on it, and when I do it goes bang again.

I have found that after this has happened 10 times it stops.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:13 pm
by Rugerfanboy
Steve wrote:Anybody with some experience out there that would give me the pros and cons of a trigger job on a Big Boy?

Steve
A true trigger job can not be done on a Henry Big Boy cause there isn't a kit available. A true trigger job consist of more than just stoning the surfaces. If your trigger has creep in it, I'd suggest contacting Henry customer service. Cause if you service the trigger group and over do it and send it to Henry for repairs. Once Henry see's your rifle trigger group was tampered with, Henry will void your warranty.

Good ammunition and a well seasoned shooter will only improve the performance of a Henry Big Boy. Yes, I will admit the sights on the Big Boy could use some improvement. But, that is due to most of us can't see worth a crap (including me). Sight picture is what most can't see or get past. The buck horn is just too small to see the front sight post. Open up the buck horn peep and color the front sight bead with a color you can clearly see threw the buck horn.

Learn how your trigger works, like trigger travel and when and were it breaks. Breathing is another area most don't consider when shooting a firearm. Stabilizing the weapon is another area most don't even think about. Lock the butt stock in your shoulder and stabilize the front post will yield better shooting habits. If you can't do that, consider a sling. A sling will blow your mind what it can do for stabilizing a firearm.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:48 pm
by Slugnut
I have the same issues as Steve, with my 41cal. BBS. 5-6 lb. trigger pull with a fair amount of creep. Is there any after-market triggers as with the Marlins ?

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:00 pm
by rwortman
I have a couple of nice bolt action rifles that have much better triggers than my Henry. The Henry is good enough to shoot pretty small groups at 100 yards and with the effective range of the 44 mag that is all that is necessary. There is some creep but the pull weight goes up just a tiny bit right before it breaks so it is easy to feel the break point and still make a good shot. I can actually pull through the creep to the break spot and hold it there until the sight picture aligns. Probably not going to mess with it. I think in today's litigious society the manufacturers opt for plenty of sear engagement to be on the safe side. My new CZ rifle has a fully adjustable trigger with a "set trigger" function that is super easy to shoot. It came from the factory with the normal mode trigger pull having lots of creep. I just adjusted it out so that normal pull is a nice crisp 3 pounds or so. When it is "set" it is ounces. you just brush it with a fingertip. Here is an example of why gun makers err on the safe side and no American made guns have set triggers. A yahoo on the CZ forum was talking about raising a fuss with CZ and accusing them of negligence and shoddy quality. Here is why. He sets the trigger with the safety on and walks around with the gun. Once in a while when he takes the safety off the gun fires. He figures this is very dangerous and CZ is liable. Others on the forum agreed. But wait a minute. The manual for the gun says to never set the trigger until just before you shoot because simply jostling the gun with that hair trigger could make it go off. If your shot opportunity passes, you put the safety on and pull the trigger, which returns it to the "normal" trigger mode. In America, if you don't read your manual and therefore do stupid stuff, it's the gun makers fault. This knucklehead doesn't need to harass CS, he needs to give the gun back and get something more stupid proof.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:05 pm
by rwortman
Rugerfanboy wrote:
Steve wrote:Anybody with some experience out there that would give me the pros and cons of a trigger job on a Big Boy?

Steve
A true trigger job can not be done on a Henry Big Boy cause there isn't a kit available. A true trigger job consist of more than just stoning the surfaces. If your trigger has creep in it, I'd suggest contacting Henry customer service. Cause if you service the trigger group and over do it and send it to Henry for repairs. Once Henry see's your rifle trigger group was tampered with, Henry will void your warranty.
A trigger job can be done by any gunsmith with the knowledge and tools to do so. Who do you think designs the kits? People have been handing their guns over to others to improve trigger pulls for a very long time. I am pretty sure I can do something to reduce sear engagement and therefore creep if I thought it important enough to do so. OTOH, as you suggested, one can learn the characteristics of a gun and shoot it pretty will even with a less than perfect trigger. My Henry isn't terrible, just OK.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:25 pm
by PT7
An interesting discussion thread...I've enjoyed it. The only trigger job I've ever had done is on my Ruger .357 Magnum revolver. Brought the 12.3 lb. DA trigger to a more manageable 9 lb action. Never would have considered a trigger job on my Henry .357 Big Boy....

At the end of the day, I simply hope everyone is trigger happy. OOPS :? . I mean happy with their trigger.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:10 pm
by Rugerfanboy
rwortman wrote:A trigger job can be done by any gunsmith with the knowledge and tools to do so. Who do you think designs the kits? People have been handing their guns over to others to improve trigger pulls for a very long time. I am pretty sure I can do something to reduce sear engagement and therefore creep if I thought it important enough to do so. OTOH, as you suggested, one can learn the characteristics of a gun and shoot it pretty will even with a less than perfect trigger. My Henry isn't terrible, just OK.
Sorry to hear your Henry has a OK trigger. Mine is awesome cause it breaks clean and is crisp. Mine has zero creep cause I've worked/tuned my action. My trigger control group has been completely gone threw by me.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:16 pm
by rwortman
Nice to know. Right now I have other rifles to shoot if I want a tack driver. OTOH, I love to fool around with them so maybe this winter I will get the tiny files and stones out and play.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:33 pm
by Alnamvet68
Some friends have spent well over a hundred dollars to get a trigger "feel" like what comes standard in a Henry...everybody who has fired my BBS Carbine thinks I had a trigger job.

Re: Big Boy Trigger Job

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:54 pm
by Steve
RanchRoper wrote:I'm not sure what's wrong with mine, but every time I pull the trigger there's this big bang sound...
I was out shooting my BB 45 colt 2 days ago (no trigger job yet) we had a blast. I shot pistols and rifles, she just shot the heck out of pistols.