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Posted: **Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:30 pm**

Hello all. New guy here. I did a quick search with no results.

I’m going to buy a Big boy X in .45 LC tomorrow. I was wondering if wood furniture is available for this platform. I’ve looked on the Henry site, but I’m not clear on the nomenclature at this point.

Couple of other questions while I’m here:

Is the 45 LC actually available with a side gate, 16 1/2” barrel and all weather?

If so, is it available with nice wood furniture?

Anyone know where I might find, in stock, an all weather 45-70 in the Atlanta area?

Thanks for letting me join. I’m sure I’ll have tons of questions in the coming weeks!!

Posted: **Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:26 am**

According to Henry sight the x models only come in the black syn stocks that you see. Im not aware of any carbine length all weather guns they all have the full length barrel. Thats also what I see on the Henry sight. The all weather guns only come with the black stock and forend. As far as the 45-70 send Henry an email and ask them if they can locate one for you. I have also had luck emailing Anthony and he willl drop ship one to your local FFL. It will take a little while but he did that for me and I had it in about 30 days. Of course at that time there wasnt this covid crap going on either. Welcome to the forum glad you joined us.

Posted: **Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:36 am**

I think you'll have to get a wood stock set custom made. $$$

Posted: **Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:45 pm**

Thanks guys. I like the length and side gate of the X, I just don’t like that synthetic stock. I know it’s all the rage, but they feel cheap to me. I’m old I guess.

Posted: **Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:09 pm**

congrats getting a 45LC, we have large and still rapidly growing group of members who really enjoy their 45's .... do hope you will be able to find a 45-70 .... feel free to read and post often .... be sure to follow the link below to add your Henry rifle to our community's total and to return to do the same each time your collection grows

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... 56#p162856

as to being "old," take a look at the thread below and you will see that you have plenty of company

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... ge#p162177

Posted: **Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:33 pm**

So I’m looking on line. It appears that the H010GAW, all weather 45-70, is made in Rice Lake WI. The Henry site lists a stock sets for all Rice Lake production models. A wide variety at that! I’m assuming that I just pick a color and style?

The Big Boy X, 45LC, is listed as model H012CX. The “X” variant is not listed in the drop down menu for the stock sets, but the H012C, M, AW, CAW, MAW, CC, and CCC are. Is the “X” made in Rice Lake? Will any of these stocks fit? I’m guessing I’d have to find a front cove/ring/clamp for it as well. I do not see these listed on the Henry sight anywhere. Are they available anywhere?

I put off buying the X today. I went to the LGS and just couldn’t get past the plastic stock. I want to be sure I can make this the way I want it before I shell out the money. I really want that “trapper” length barrel. (17.5”) I don’t see that available on any of the other side gate models. Am I missing something?

Sorry for the questions. I’m new to Henry and really just want the guns I have in my head.

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:49 am**

T56Impala wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:33 pm
So I’m looking on line. It appears that the H010GAW, all weather 45-70, is made in Rice Lake WI. The Henry site lists a stock sets for all Rice Lake production models. A wide variety at that! I’m assuming that I just pick a color and style?

The Big Boy X, 45LC, is listed as model H012CX. The “X” variant is not listed in the drop down menu for the stock sets, but the H012C, M, AW, CAW, MAW, CC, and CCC are. Is the “X” made in Rice Lake? Will any of these stocks fit? I’m guessing I’d have to find a front cove/ring/clamp for it as well. I do not see these listed on the Henry sight anywhere. Are they available anywhere?

I put off buying the X today. I went to the LGS and just couldn’t get past the plastic stock. I want to be sure I can make this the way I want it before I shell out the money. I really want that “trapper” length barrel. (17.5”) I don’t see that available on any of the other side gate models. Am I missing something?

Sorry for the questions. I’m new to Henry and really just want the guns I have in my head.

Barrel length. There was a thread about this here about 6 months ago, if you want to take a look at it. Turns out that Henry advertised barrel length on older (non gate models) as 16.5" which did not include the chamber, just the rifled part of the barrel. When the X models came out they switched to the ATF measurement which measures from the muzzle to the closed bolt face, thus resulting in a longer measured distance. The barrels are actually the same length for the different models as measured from the closed bolt face.

See this thread. It's confusing, but gets sorted out around page 4. Fortyshooter contacted the boss and won some goodies from Henry for stumping Anthony.

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... rel+length

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:09 pm**

Rifle length only in the all weather (for now) but Anthony listens to his customer base so send an email and request what you want..Not to be a traitor but Ruger/Marlin will hit the market later in the year also and most of us lever addicts are excited about that.. could be interesting

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:35 pm**

So I did it. I got the X in 45 LC. Can’t wait to try it out tomorrow. Couple of things I need to add, but it feels good on the shoulder. I’m questing the load gate will loosen up over time? Mag spring too?

I’m curious, I have a box of 335gr flat nose cast Buffalo bore. Without me trying it and risk jamming one in the gun, has anyone tried these? They pack a punch coming out of my Vaquero. I’d like to use them for hog hunting.

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:53 pm**

I don't own a Henry 45, but I can tell you that my BBS 41 will cycle some heavy 270 gr cast no problem.
They are pretty long, but cycle with ease. Same with my BBB 44, I've loaded some heavy 325 gr cast that cycled with ease.
Both are a serious thumper on the receiving.
Good luck and keep us updated on your results.

RP

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:06 pm**

T56Impala wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:35 pm
So I did it. I got the X in 45 LC. Can’t wait to try it out tomorrow. Couple of things I need to add, but it feels good on the shoulder. I’m questing the load gate will loosen up over time? Mag spring too?

I’m curious, I have a box of 335gr flat nose cast Buffalo bore. Without me trying it and risk jamming one in the gun, has anyone tried these? They pack a punch coming out of my Vaquero. I’d like to use them for hog hunting.

Just from a ballistics standpoint (don't have that rifle), you should get an additional approx 200fps mv ( + or - ) over your Vaquero and corresponding energy/range. You should chrono it to verify. Taking a large hog shouldn't be a problem.

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:13 pm**

+200 fps, interesting.

I have some hot rounds for my vaquero. More in line with the ballistics of a 454. I get just over 1600fps with the 7 1/2” barrel on the hand gun. I’m curious what it will be with a longer barrel? They are 285gr projectiles. The 335gr cast I spoke of are painful to shoot out of a handgun.

I’m just wondering if they will feed. I heard one story where someone jammed a live round prior to feeding that resulted in all kinds of problems.

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:28 am**

Can't help with the feed question. If you have access to a chrono, that's really the only way to establish the ballistics. I like the confidence it gives me (or lack thereof) with every new gun/ammo combination, and I've found that even well known and trusted factory ammo often varies significantly from round to round out of the same box. I don't reload so I'm stuck with OTS ammo.

Never shot Buffalo Bore, so can't comment on their products, But I have shot a lot of .41mag Underwood, and it's much superior to other brands I've tried out in terms of consistent performance. Fortunately, I've got enough to last me for 20 or so deer seasons. Like everyone else, they're out of stock on just about their entire line.

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:50 am**

I’ll check out Underwood.....assuming I can ever find any! I’m relegated to factory reloads ( GA Arms), my stockpile of Hornady and some special one off loads from a small manufacturer that is no more. I only have 30 rounds of the Buffalo bore, so I’ll save it for hunting. (I picked it up at an estate sale)

I’m going to the range here in a bit to try out the CX and plink a little. I spend a couple days a week at the range. Mostly with my handguns, but today is my long gun day. Guess I’ll spend tomorrow cleaning!

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:20 am**

GunnyGene wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:28 am
Can't help with the feed question. If you have access to a chrono, that's really the only way to establish the ballistics. I like the confidence it gives me (or lack thereof) with every new gun/ammo combination, and I've found that even well known and trusted factory ammo often varies significantly from round to round out of the same box. I don't reload so I'm stuck with OTS ammo.

Never shot Buffalo Bore, so can't comment on their products, But I have shot a lot of .41mag Underwood, and it's much superior to other brands I've tried out in terms of consistent performance. Fortunately, I've got enough to last me for 20 or so deer seasons. Like everyone else, they're out of stock on just about their entire line.

Gene, I've tried the Underwoods also very well made ammo and pretty consistent. But I had even better results with the 250 gr Cor Bon ammo.
I mostly load my own but I did try a variety of factory stuff out when I first got the 41.
Can't find the Underwoods target but here's the other at 50 yds.

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RP

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:24 am**

Vaquero wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:20 am

GunnyGene wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:28 am
Can't help with the feed question. If you have access to a chrono, that's really the only way to establish the ballistics. I like the confidence it gives me (or lack thereof) with every new gun/ammo combination, and I've found that even well known and trusted factory ammo often varies significantly from round to round out of the same box. I don't reload so I'm stuck with OTS ammo.

Never shot Buffalo Bore, so can't comment on their products, But I have shot a lot of .41mag Underwood, and it's much superior to other brands I've tried out in terms of consistent performance. Fortunately, I've got enough to last me for 20 or so deer seasons. Like everyone else, they're out of stock on just about their entire line.
Gene, I've tried the Underwoods also very well made ammo and pretty consistent. But I had even better results with the 250 gr Cor Bon ammo.
I mostly load my own but I did try a variety of factory stuff out when I first got the 41.
Can't find the Underwoods target but here's the other at 50 yds.

20190215_071920.jpg

RP

Went to the Corbon site. They're out of stock of nearly everything also. Didn't even list the 250 gr. We're gonna end up with slingshots and rocks if things don't improve. In related news, the Oxford, MS Winchester plant just landed a $37million dollar contract with the Army for 5.56, 7.62, and .50 cal ammo. That's gonna suck up a lot of components.

https://www.wjtv.com/news/state/mississ ... mmunition/

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:49 pm**

WOW!! YEP that's alot of components.

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Hey Gene, found one of the Underwoods target.

RP

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:39 pm**

Nice group. I assume you tweaked your sights a bit after.

I was looking at those the other day. I might sign up for the notification, for when they come back in stock.

Cartridge : .41 Remington Magnum
Bullet Brand : Underwood Ammo™
Bullet Weight (gr) : 265
Bullet Construction : Hi-Tek Coated Hard Cast
Bullet Model : Wide Long Nose Gas Check
Bullet Material : Lead
Brinell Hardness : 21
Case Type : Brass
Supressor Safe : Yes

BALLISTICS INFORMATION
Muzzle Energy (ft. lbs) : 1,073
Muzzle Velocity (fps) : 1,350
Sectional Density : 0.230

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:14 pm**

Nice groupings guys! I’ll have to start photographing mine. Never thought about doing that.

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:23 pm**

T56Impala wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:14 pm
Nice groupings guys! I’ll have to start photographing mine. Never thought about doing that.

Pics and video's are always welcome. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Don't be shy about it, nobody is going to beat you up for anything. Accompanying details (weather, cold bore shot, ammo, etc.) should be included with a target pic. We learn from it all.

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