Product Suggestion Sent To Henry

[HenryFan]

I have sent several product suggestions to Henry.

The one prior to today was a suggestion that Henry produce a single-barrel 16 gauge shotgun with killer wood and shiny blue steel finish. I suggested they make it a limited production firearm, maybe one year of production and call it a "Classic." I think nostalgia would sell them at a fast pace.

Earlier today, I sent a suggestion that Henry engineer and produce a semi-automatic carbine in .44 Rem. Mag. I related that Ruger produced a semi-automatic .44 Mag. cartridge at one time but production ceased maybe three decades ago. I commented if they made a .44 Mag. carbine with an appearance similar to the current production 9mm semi-automatic carbine (good walnut and blue steel) that I believe it would be a brisk seller. Obviously, good engineering is a priority to make sure it is a reliable firearm but that's what Henry does.

The used Ruger .44 Mag. carbines that appear on the market today bring handsome prices. I don't know why Ruger ceased production of the .44 Mag carbine, maybe it was a design problem, technical problems, marketing problems or too many warranty requests but it was a great carbine for the Eastern deer woods.

I anxiously wait for the introduction of my two suggestions. Probably any day now.

[5shot]

I'm in agreement on your suggestions HenryFan but they haven't gotten around to my suggestion yet....a CCH or Blue side gate .41 Mag carbine.

[BigAl52]

I'm in agreement on your suggestions HenryFan but they haven't gotten around to my suggestion yet....a CCH or Blue side gate .41 Mag carbine.

5Shot
I bet they put your suggestion right on top of the plastic of a new trash can liner

[HenryFan]

5shot -

I may have to wait while they work on your suggestion.

First come, first served.

[Vaquero]

I'm in agreement on your suggestions HenryFan but they haven't gotten around to my suggestion yet....a CCH or Blue side gate .41 Mag carbine.

As much as I am in agreement with you, I could see the above mentioned carbine as a good sell unlike our like.
Many more 44 mag. lovers then 41 mag lovers. Though a SA 41 carbine like that would be the cat's meow IMHO.

RP

[5shot]

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5Shot
I bet they put your suggestion right on top of the plastic of a new trash can liner
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And here I was hoping it got temporarily hung up in cyberspace and the production announcement was coming any day now.

HenryFan... If Henry listens to both of us I'll park my .41 in the safe right alongside of the 16 gauge!

[BigAl52]

You guys talk about suggestions. Im thinking there must be some real dreamin in some of these gun MFG break rooms. Smith and Wesson comin out with a model 350 revolver chambered in 350 Legend. Ruger has the Super Redhawk in 22 hornet. Both of these guns should include a set of wheels they are huge. Im not seeing the demand numbers but Im scratchin my head trying to make sense of it all. Not to mention the price.

[North Country Gal]

From what I remember, Ruger claimed high manufacturing costs as the reason for dropping the 44 mag Carbine and that's because of the gas operated action. That also caused other issues. People I know who have had the 44 mag Carbine have told me it was very fussy about ammo to get proper functioning. The later Deerfield 44 mag that replaced it did NOT have a good rep for accuracy and was limited also by the rotary mag. Again, both were gas-operated systems.

And that's the problem as far as cost to make. 9mm and 45 auto carbines can use a simple, low cost blowback or recoil kinds of actions, just like on a 9mm or 45 auto pistol. When you get to the power of a 44 mag, though, you usually have to go gas operated and that drives up the cost. The other issue is that unlike a 9mm or 45 auto, the 44 mag is a rimmed cartridge, a cartridge designed for revolvers, not semi-autos. Using rimmed revolver cartridges in a semi-auto has a history of engineering problems. That also drives up cost.

If you want a handy semi-auto magnum carbine, you're much better off going with a magnum level semi-auto cartridge like a 10mm.

[5shot]

North Country Gal....Thank you for that information. I have no experience with the Ruger .44 auto but imagine that gas operated system would not play well with my cast bullets either.

I have no idea how marketing works or how marketing people think but if Henry can profitably make so many shiney and gaudy (my opinion) commemorative versions they should also be able to make a profit on a few special runs of their staple products. Especially when they would require minumal engineering changes.

On the other hand, a local dealer recently told me it's a struggle to even get the Henry single shot in stock as it is now.

[North Country Gal]

True. One of the issues with the Ruger 44 Carbine was exactly that. Lead bullets would gum up the gas system pretty quick. Ruger actually specified jacketed, only, 240 gr standard loads.

[Vaquero]

True. One of the issues with the Ruger 44 Carbine was exactly that. Lead bullets would gum up the gas system pretty quick. Ruger actually specified jacketed, only, 240 gr standard loads.

I wonder if today's powder coated cast would help in that relation?

RP

[North Country Gal]

I think they might, but hard to say without actually having a Ruger to try. I've seen some of these used Ruger 44s for sale and I love they way they shoulder and point. I can see why folks love them when they get them to shoot, reliably. They are getting very pricey, now. Too much so for me to take a chance and end up with something that needs work to shoot, reliably.

[HenryFan]

North Country Gal -

You are right about the Ruger .44 carbines getting pricey. That is why I think that if Henry engineered and produced a reliable, competitively priced .44 Mag. carbine, with the appearance of the current 9mm semiautomatic carbine, it would sell like ice water in the infernal regions.

Reliable would be a key factor in the success formula.

[BrokenolMarine]

I sent a suggestion years ago. 45acp lever carbine. I'd buy one. Companion for my 1911s and probably a nice truck gun for the farm. I have plenty of ammo.

[North Country Gal]

I'd go for a 45 ACP carbine of any kind. Cheap to shoot, low recoil and more power than a 9mm.

[BigAl52]

Ruger makes an LC Carbine in 45 acp. Maybe that isnt your style

[North Country Gal]

Correct, not my style. Could be a great gun, but I'm just too traditional, I guess.

[Vaquero]

I agree, it's a bit to Planet of the Apes looking for my taste also.

RP

[Vaquero]

One of the Auto-Ordnance Thompson's would be neat.
But, I have read that most aren't very reliable.

RP

[BigAl52]

Wont need to worry about it at all in Colorado. As the assault weapons ban did get approved by the house in Colorado. Now it goes to the senate. Never new a Ruger 10/22 was an assault weapon but if it has a threaded barrel its now illegal. This will also include Henry X model Frontier 22 and the Homesteader.