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Lever Guns Viable Option

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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by CT_Shooter » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:23 pm

Mistered wrote:... the possibility exists 'they' could turn their attention to other firearms as well. This is the argument the hard core 2A aficionados present and one that cannot really be debated with them. Here in Oregon a ballot initiative that would have required registration of similar guns was recently 'killed' due mostly to poor 'language' and probable lack of time to gather the required number of signatures.
Regarding firearms, it's working here. I do wish that we in CT had access to assisted suicide for the terminally ill, like you do in Oregon. It's strange how reasonable people can differ so much in so many ways.
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by GFK » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:00 pm

Mistered wrote:
Yes, the gun exploded. I assume the person was embarrassed. Not wanting to be thought of as someone not handling a firearm safety.
Well, I doubt the gun exploded due to just unsafe handling - MAYBE unsafe operation or ammo issues such as improperly loaded ammo which is one of the most common causes of guns going Ka-Boom!
I agree. To me, it is all the same. Dead is dead by any means.
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by JEBar » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:17 pm

good discussion .... well expressed .... REMINDER ===> lets keep it that way and not allow political commentary to slip in

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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by GFK » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:36 am

CT_Shooter wrote:I agree with the posts in this thread; not that it matters to me.

ARs and similar firearms that were not purchased by residents prior to 2013 are no longer legal in CT. That's when I started shooting and got my first pistol permit (allowing me to buy rifles, pistols, ammo, and to carry a concealed firearm).
CT_Shooter, am I understanding this correctly. A permit is required in CT to purchase a firearm or ammo of any kind?
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by CT_Shooter » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:47 pm

GFK wrote:
CT_Shooter wrote: CT_Shooter, am I understanding this correctly. A permit is required in CT to purchase a firearm or ammo of any kind?
Yup. You understand it correctly.

To obtain a CT pistol permit requires education, passing written and practical tests, and an FBI background check with fingerprints. Permits are issued for five years and can be renewed without any further requirements (mine expires in December).

To be clear, though, anyone in CT can own a firearm (by inheritance or other legal means as per the 2nd amendment), but it may not leave the owner's home and the owner cannot purchase ammunition for it without proper credentials. For me to purchase ammunition online, all vendors require a copy of my CT permit and a copy of my driver's license; even then, there are some vendors who won't sell ammunition to CT residents, at all.

An FFL is required to purchase firearms. However, I can walk into any LGS (FFL) and walk out with a newly purchased firearm. No waiting period. The LGS simply contacts the State Police to get a verification number for the paperwork. Transfers between individuals are done the same way. Paperwork is completed, the State Police are contacted for the approval, and the firearm can be transferred.
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by Mistered » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:26 pm

but it may not leave the owner's home
How does one shoot this legally owned firearm if it cannot leave the owners home?

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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by CT_Shooter » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:30 pm

Mistered wrote:
but it may not leave the owner's home
How does one shoot this legally owned firearm if it cannot leave the owners home?
He doesn't, unless he has ammunition and it's in self defense.

Of course, he could always get a permit. That's what I did. I inherited two Colts and wanted to use them. That's how I began my shooting hobby. Now, I have two Henry's, an Uberti 1873, a single shot 22LR rifle, and those Colts (an Official Police .38 and a 1903 .25 auto, both in pristine condition). I've also been reloading for the entire time that I've had a pistol permit and love it. I even went to training to get a permit for hunting with firearms, though with my back, I haven't gone, yet. I'm ever hopeful.

It does cost a bit to get a permit, about three hundred dollars give or take, but I didn't mind paying for it. It's about the price of a cheap scope. And, for what it's worth, I approve of the entire process.
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Post by Mistered » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:42 pm

Ok - so the permit allows them to leave the home then?

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Post by CT_Shooter » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:49 pm

Mistered wrote:Ok - so the permit allows them to leave the home then?
Yes.
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by Travlin » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:22 pm

I feel sorry for anyone who has to pay $$$ to exercise his or her second amendment right. Having a C.C.W. permit I can leave a L.G.S. right after paying for a firearm.

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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by CT_Shooter » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:36 pm

Travlin wrote:I feel sorry for anyone who has to pay $$$ to exercise his or her second amendment right. Having a C.C.W. permit I can leave a L.G.S. right after paying for a firearm.
So can I. I wonder, though. Was your CCW permit free or was there some fee?
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by Mags » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:07 pm

looking for somewhere less expensive to live someday. CT no longer on my list of places to check out.
UPDATES: OR passes 114, "one of strictest gun control measures in U.S." https://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic. ... 34#p213234

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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by CT_Shooter » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:38 pm

Mags wrote:looking for somewhere less expensive to live someday. CT no longer on my list of places to check out.
CT is not inexpensive; it wouldn't make anyone's list of the top twenty. I hope you find what you're looking for and enjoy it.
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by PT7 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:19 pm

I dunno…33 posts, 4 web pages (on my screen). But it appears that only the first page dealt with "Lever Guns Viable Option." Maybe I'm missing something? :?
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by JEBar » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:22 pm

our threads often wander around a bit .... kind of like a group of friends sitting around a campfire .... so long as the discussion conforms to our community standards, all's good

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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by Mags » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:57 pm

CT_Shooter wrote:
Mags wrote:looking for somewhere less expensive to live someday. CT no longer on my list of places to check out.
CT is not inexpensive; it wouldn't make anyone's list of the top twenty. I hope you find what you're looking for and enjoy it.
I've always had nostalgia for the North East, NE of New York anyways. Inexpensive is relative to where I'm currently at. For a generalized comparison, except for entertainment, Hartford is less expensive. I suspect further out from Hartford, more rural, even more so less expensive.
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:04 pm

I LOVE lever guns. Just sayin'.

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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by GFK » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:42 pm

CT_Shooter wrote:
GFK wrote:
CT_Shooter wrote: CT_Shooter, am I understanding this correctly. A permit is required in CT to purchase a firearm or ammo of any kind?
Yup. You understand it correctly.

To obtain a CT pistol permit requires education, passing written and practical tests, and an FBI background check with fingerprints. Permits are issued for five years and can be renewed without any further requirements (mine expires in December).

To be clear, though, anyone in CT can own a firearm (by inheritance or other legal means as per the 2nd amendment), but it may not leave the owner's home and the owner cannot purchase ammunition for it without proper credentials. For me to purchase ammunition online, all vendors require a copy of my CT permit and a copy of my driver's license; even then, there are some vendors who won't sell ammunition to CT residents, at all.

An FFL is required to purchase firearms. However, I can walk into any LGS (FFL) and walk out with a newly purchased firearm. No waiting period. The LGS simply contacts the State Police to get a verification number for the paperwork. Transfers between individuals are done the same way. Paperwork is completed, the State Police are contacted for the approval, and the firearm can be transferred.
Okay. Without a permit, one can own a firearm by inheritance (or other legal means [???]) but can not purchase one from a dealer or ammo. Since a firearm is useless without ammo, can one buy the items for reloads without a permit? I understand the concern for safety. It seems prohibitive though. Plus, it appears a profit is being made in the process.
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by CT_Shooter » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:56 am

GFK wrote:... Since a firearm is useless without ammo, can one buy the items for reloads without a permit?
Yes.
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Re: Lever Guns Viable Option

Post by GFK » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:07 am

CT_Shooter wrote:
GFK wrote:... Since a firearm is useless without ammo, can one buy the items for reloads without a permit?
Yes.
Well, it is usable. But, I guess target practice is not an option, unless one has their own land to shoot on, without a permit.
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