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Didn't know if anyone was aware. Looks like they are coming out with a single shot Henry rifle and shotgun. Fast forward to 20:25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InJK8hl ... .be&t=1242

There was an interesting discussion earlier this month, Grizzly, about Henry shotguns. It was introduced by Daytime Dave.
If you haven't read this one yet, here it is: http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... it=shotgun

Thanks Grizz.

grizzly,

I moved your post to the newly created areas. Thanks for the reminder.

Yee Haw! They look a lot like the old H+R single shots. Which is now out of business since Remington bought them. I wonder if Henry bought some of the tooling. I also wonder if Henry will be doing replacement barrels like the old H+R's. One rifle is a couple of calibers.

I called Henry. Not much info on these yet.

Make mine a brass receiver and I'll take 1 in 44 mag and one in 45/70! Octagon barrel would be even better!

It really does look like a more polished version of an H&R. I'll be it is a good shooter!

losing the H&R line of rifle and shotguns was a terrible loses to the firearm consumers . love them or hate them they were a great value and got a lot of new shooters in the game , hope Henry can bring something like them back,

shaner wrote:losing the H&R line of rifle and shotguns was a terrible loses to the firearm consumers . love them or hate them they were a great value and got a lot of new shooters in the game , hope Henry can bring something like them back,

I have an old breaktop DA revolver. Nothing fancy about it but it is a great shooter.

Very interesting. I have a single-shot H&R in 45 colt and it is a lot of fun to shoot. I would certainly be interested in a Henry single-shot of the same caliber.

If they would just drill and tap them, it would be even better.

I'm gonna bite off on the brass 20 gauge.

Very much in a traditional single shot mood, these days. I will be buying one of the Henrys, for sure. Just haven't decided which one.

If these actually make it to the distributers and LGS, I am buying a steel framed 12 guage.

North Country Gal wrote:Very much in a traditional single shot mood, these days. I will be buying one of the Henrys, for sure. Just haven't decided which one.

For everyone's benefit on this forum, I think you need one of each and regularly give us your wonderful range reports

I need one of the steel frames in .44 with the recoil pad. My bony shoulder is getting bruised from my Big Boy even with lite loads. Of course, shooting 100 to 300 rounds in a session on the bench doesn't help.

Thanks, David. I somehow always find a way to squeeze one more gun in the house.

I hear you about shooting that much from the bench with the 44. Don't like shooting at the bench with any hard kicker. One of the reasons I prefer to shoot, offhand, so much.

A .44 single shot rifle will have a lot of recoil? I'm thinking it might, IF a person insists on shooting ammo that's "loaded for bear." But I don't think that's mandatory. Also, I'm assuming the rifle will also shoot .44 specials.

Whatever the case, I'm saving my nickels and pennies for when they come out. NCG, recently you had me sold on getting a .223, but the more I think about it, the more likely I think I will want a .45-70.

I've done some playing with recoil calculators, along with looking at some printed tables (while waiting for arrival). A 45-70 Henry singleshot, assuming a low power scope and mounts add 3/4 lb, will weigh a bit more than 7.6 lbs. Shooting standard factory 300 gr loads, recoil shouldn't any more than a 12 ga. trap load from a 7 lb fixed breach gun. I think nothing of shooting a box of 3" 1 1/5 oz steel #3's at 1550 fps from a 7 lb Franchi inertia SA while duck hunting (disappointed if I don't ), so a few shots with the good ol' 45-70 should be a picnic . I'm seriously considering the Hornady Leverevolution Monoflex 250 gr loads; I think they'll recoil less, and provide a little flatter trajectory. The 325 gr FTX will kick a bit more, but I'll try them, too. If I want to plink with it, I'll find some cheaper ammo - or take up reloading.

Gun weight and also stock design has a lot to do with recoil on a 44 mag. At the weight listed for the Henry 44 mag, no problem, I'm sure.

On the other hand, my experience with the 45-70, even in a couple heavy rifle was so-so. Mid range factory hunting loads with bullets over 300 grains at 1600 fpsnwere just doable for me. Shot some loads up around 1800 to 2000 fps with those bullets and those were not fun. If I do get another 45-70, I'm thinking it will need to be ported. Way too expensive a cartridge for plinking, anyway.

North Country Gal wrote:my experience with the 45-70, even in a couple heavy rifle was so-so. Mid range factory hunting loads with bullets over 300 grains at 1600 fps were just doable for me. Shot some loads up around 1800 to 2000 fps with those bullets and those were not fun. If I do get another 45-70, I'm thinking it will need to be ported. Way too expensive a cartridge for plinking, anyway.

my only experience with a 45-70 has been with our Henry .... from that, I couldn't agree more .... its heavy, to heavy for me to spend much time shooting offhand .... out of the box with Cowboy Action ammo, I've found it to be fun to shoot .... with heavily loaded dangerous game loads, not so much .... because it is a rifle I fully intend to shoot often, we have executed a series of mods which have drastically reduced felt recoil .... as a person who has to take blood thinning medication, that reduction is most welcome .... now that I can sit at a bench where I can fire and enjoy heavy loads, I probably won't do so very often .... my plan is to build our own mild (Cowboy Action) loads, which with the mods should be even more fun to shoot, and to take it out as often as possible

Yornoc3 wrote:I've done some playing with recoil calculators, along with looking at some printed tables (while waiting for arrival). A 45-70 Henry singleshot, assuming a low power scope and mounts add 3/4 lb, will weigh a bit more than 7.6 lbs. Shooting standard factory 300 gr loads, recoil shouldn't any more than a 12 ga. trap load from a 7 lb fixed breach gun. I think nothing of shooting a box of 3" 1 1/5 oz steel #3's at 1550 fps from a 7 lb Franchi inertia SA while duck hunting (disappointed if I don't ), so a few shots with the good ol' 45-70 should be a picnic . I'm seriously considering the Hornady Leverevolution Monoflex 250 gr loads; I think they'll recoil less, and provide a little flatter trajectory. The 325 gr FTX will kick a bit more, but I'll try them, too. If I want to plink with it, I'll find some cheaper ammo - or take up reloading.

I have shot the 325 FTX in my Henry 45/70. I don't much care for them. it's not the amount of recoil it's the type. It's very sharp like getting kicked. Very noticable compared to 300 gr Winchester. Those have similar recoil but it's slower more like getting shoved.

I plan to chrono both loads soon.

The FTX also doesn't feed well in my lever action Henry.

I thought I wanted Both a 44 mag and a 45/70. But at the moment I'm just looking for the 44 mag. After my latest range testing I really want to see the difference between the twist rates using the same loads.

Thanks, Squatch, that's good to know. I expect the increased performance claimed by Hornady has some effect, you don't get something for nothing when your talking increased velocity and energy. Using 300 grain standard loads, I found recoil in my Marlin 45 - 70 - at about the same weight - to be tolerable. I think the Henry will have a better recoil pad, too .