H015-243 Problems

[FDP]

You may be on to something there. Temporary fix on the production line.
The stiff opening becoming very loose and rubbing the bluing off the barrel.
I guess I'll find out from Henry. Or not.Supposed to have been delivered to Henry today but I haven't received any confirmation from UPS yet. I hate sending guns back for repair. At one time, not that many years ago. It was rare to hear of anyone sending a gun back, even the low end guns.

[Mistered]

At one time, not that many years ago. It was rare to hear of anyone sending a gun back, even the low end guns.

The one and only gun I sent back WAS low end and the frame cracked. Upon receipt of the replacement it was promptly sold.
Yes it was rare to hear of a gun getting sent back not too many years ago. Lots of reasons - better quality control with fewer manufacturers.
Gun manufacturers being of one company as opposed to many being under the auspice of a 'holding company' or other umbrella.
Also back 'in the day' some people were more self reliant and were able to resolve simple issues as opposed to sending it back for something that could be easily fixed with some basic mechanical inclination.
Also the 'market' for firearms has changed dramatically. It used to be firearms were purchased by outdoors people, hunters etc. as opposed to now where I see many people buying guns as a novelty, primarily self defense and other reasons I never used to see before.

[Yornoc3]

I think Mistered has nailed it. If the hole through the receiver is as oversize as it sounds, a lot of "slop" would result. I didn't disassemble my 45-70, but the pin doesn't budge with finger or thumb pressure (maybe I'm not as strong as some of you guys ), and there's virtually no play with the action open. On a Mossberg SSI One I have, the forestock iron rode on the end of the receiver hard enough to rub the blued finish. It was stiff to open or close. I removed the iron, and lightly sanded the wood just enough to relieve the excess tension. If I remember correctly, the H&R/NEF guns had plastic forestock "iron", and didn't bear on the receiver. The Henry single shots' iron doesn't appear to bear on the receiver, either, even though the "iron" really is iron (OK, steel), but does fit really close. If it didn't, that, too, could account for excess play when open, I'll bet.

[Mistered]

but the pin doesn't budge with finger or thumb pressure (maybe I'm not as strong as some of you guys

I see a groove in the pin and that tells me there is ball detent to hold it into place and it might take a little 'bump ' with the hand on a plastic punch to compress the detent spring to release it.
Do you still have the rifle or is it sent back? If you still have it pop the pin and pull the upper out and insert the pin in the hole in the block and see what you have. THEN if it is loose and wobbly you can TELL them (Henry) what you found without having to rely on them to find the problem.
I don't care how 'Homespun' Henry sounds, and how good their customer service is - It all ain't no better than the person doing the repair - and that is where my 'apprehension' begins.....

[FDP]

but the pin doesn't budge with finger or thumb pressure (maybe I'm not as strong as some of you guys

I see a groove in the pin and that tells me there is ball detent to hold it into place and it might take a little 'bump ' with the hand on a plastic punch to compress the detent spring to release it.
Do you still have the rifle or is it sent back? If you still have it pop the pin and pull the upper out and insert the pin in the hole in the block and see what you have. THEN if it is loose and wobbly you can TELL them (Henry) what you found without having to rely on them to find the problem.
I don't care how 'Homespun' Henry sounds, and how good their customer service is - It all ain't no better than the person doing the repair - and that is where my 'apprehension' begins.....

Already sent back.

[FDP]

Henry replaced the problem gun that was sent for repair.I received the new replacement about two weeks ago. The serial number of the new one is about two thousand numbers higher that the old one which was only 3 digits (in the hundreds).
The new guns lockup when closing is completely different. This tells my there was a significant issue with the original gun which probably should not have been sold.
I had forgotten to remove the hammer extension from the one I sent back but Henry caught it and reinstalled the extension on the new one.
It seems the only issue with the new gun is the trigger pull. Although it has a clean break with no felt creep, my trigger pull gauge will max out at 8 + pounds before the trigger breaks.
As of now, the gun is back in the box. Although Henry was very responsive and did a great job in resolving my problems. I won't be returning the gun for the trigger issue. I will either keep the gun and install a Skinner sight and pass it down to the grandson some day or take a loss and trade for another brand.

[CT_Shooter]

Thanks for the update, FDP. You might want to read this post regarding Henry single shot trigger springs. It could be very helpful.

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... 911#p78911

Henry replaced the problem gun that was sent for repair.I received the new replacement about two weeks ago. The serial number of the new one is about two thousand numbers higher that the old one which was only 3 digits (in the hundreds).
The new guns lockup when closing is completely different. This tells my there was a significant issue with the original gun which probably should not have been sold.
I had forgotten to remove the hammer extension from the one I sent back but Henry caught it and reinstalled the extension on the new one.
It seems the only issue with the new gun is the trigger pull. Although it has a clean break with no felt creep, my trigger pull gauge will max out at 8 + pounds before the trigger breaks.
As of now, the gun is back in the box. Although Henry was very responsive and did a great job in resolving my problems. I won't be returning the gun for the trigger issue. I will either keep the gun and install a Skinner sight and pass it down to the grandson some day or take a loss and trade for another brand.

[JEBar]

FDP ....

first, welcome to our forum .... delighted to have you join us .... understood on the heavy trigger pull .... as noted, Al is working on his and it might pay for you to keep up with the thread (link in post above) .... the reason for the heavy trigger pull and cocking can be summed up in one word ... that being liability .... OK, add another word .... that being lawyers .... its reported that the spring tension has to be so high that if a cocked rifle is dropped, there is no way it can accidentally discharge .... on the one hand that's understandable, on the other it can be cumbersome .... historically I've chosen to have a gunsmith work on the triggers of several different firearms .... that is what I did with our Henry 44 and 45-70 .... as a result they are both fine shooters .... please take a look at our How Many ? thread (link below) and add your Henry to our community's total .... I'm looking forward to your reports as you are able to spend time with your rifle


http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... 568#p78568

[BigAl52]

JEbar already mentioned the lawyer aspect. Ive never been involved with a gun company to know what they must go through for liability issues. Henry will not do anything with youre trigger pull. While they may try to smooth it up a little if you send it back it will still not have the 3 to 5 lb pull most people are after. Some of us tolerate a little more than others. In no way am I trying to mitigate the fact that it does have a heavier than normal trigger pull. When I receive the springs I have on order I will change mine out and report back. Its a simple change and reports I am reading are it does improve the trigger and the hammer pull back.

[inspcalahan]

I just picked up a .243 last week. The trigger isn't amazing, but acceptable. Everything else is tight and seems fine. Range trips will tell....Hopefully Henry will take care of yours and it's not an epidemic problem with this one.

[JEBar]

I just picked up a .243 last week. The trigger isn't amazing, but acceptable. Everything else is tight and seems fine. Range trips will tell....Hopefully Henry will take care of yours and it's not an epidemic problem with this one.

looking forward to hearing the results of those range trips .... a 243 single shot should be fun to fire .... please, be sure to revisit our How Many ? thread and add it to our community's total

[k9rfz]

This thread has been very helpful to me. I joined the forum today specifically because my new H015-223 has the same sloppy hinge pin problem addressed in this thread. My barrel slops side to side about .080" at the breach. The hinge pin is easily pushed out with light thumb pressure. I own a CVA Hunter in .44mag and know what a proper tolerance single shot is supposed to feel like. I arrived at the same diagnosis as this thread. Mine has been sloppy straight from the box without a single round fired through it. Unfortunately, with the COVID-19 delays, my email to customer service has gone unanswered for the past week. I originally took it back to the LGS and they claimed that might just be how a Henry is supposed to function. I suspected that was nonsense because this fit and finish should be an embarrassment to Henry. It's a hassle to pay $400 for a new rifle and have it be this sloppy, but I'll give Henry a chance to make it right. Thanks for giving me hope this problem is a fluke that Henry can fix.

[CT_Shooter]

Welcome to the forum from CT. Glad you joined us. You might want to telephone CS in addition to your email. Regardless, Henry will make it right. No doubt about it. I hope it happens quickly for you. Please keep us posted.

This thread has been very helpful to me. I joined the forum today specifically because my new H015-223 has the same sloppy hinge pin problem addressed in this thread. Thanks for giving me hope this problem is a fluke that Henry can fix.

[JEBar]

This thread has been very helpful to me. I joined the forum today specifically because my new H015-223 has the same sloppy hinge pin problem addressed in this thread.

first, welcome to our forum .... delighted to have you aboard .... do hope you will feel fee to read and post often .... to jump into ongoing conversations; as well as, to start others of your own ....sorry to hear about the issue with your rifle ... since you've not received an acknowledgement to your email, I recommend you call their customer service and speak directly with a rep .... I have no doubt that they will take care it .... be sure to follow the link below and add your Henry to our community's total


http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... 61#p137161

[leverjc]

Welcome to the forum. Hope you get your rifle fixed soon. I have 2 rifles that are going back as soon as Henry gets caught up with their backlog from the China virus thing. Both the Henrys I have bought are going to have to make a trip back yo the factory for obvious problems.

[BigAl52]

K9rfz
I have a single shot 357 and there isnt any slop in my pin area at all. Sure I can push my pin out but it takes some effort to get it out. Its to bad its that way and unfortunate you need to return it but I know Henry will fix it as I have sent 3 back myself.