Choke

[JEBar]

in researching Henry's 410 lever actions I have noted that the H018-410 with its 24" barrel come fitted for "Invector Style" choke tubes .... the H018-410R with its 20" barrel comes fixed "Cylinder Bore" choke .... in considering a 410 for my 9 year old's first shotgun, I prefer the 20" but being able to use choke tubes pretty much eliminates it from consideration .... any thoughts from folks who use a 410 ..

[Abnermal]

I had a .410 years ago that I tried to squirrel hunt with. Found out real quick that it wouldn't reach the treetops nearly as well as a 12 or 20 gauge. And that was with full choke. A .410 in cylinder bore would be pretty helpless for hunting anything except bunny rabbits at very close range in my opinion. Can't figure out what Henry was thinking not offering both guns with choke tubes. Puzzling!

[JEBar]

puzzling to me as well

[North Country Gal]

Not sure I understand their thinking, either. 410s have traditionally be choked full as long as there have been 410s, because anything more open leaves you with too sparse a pattern. Choke tubes would be far more useful on a 20.

[JEBar]

agree

[steider]

I do know people that like modified more than full for hunting with a .410 . But, in this day and age options sell. You get a city person that needs a gun for his son to hunt at his grandparents house during his vacation. He’ll probably choose the .410 with a choke just because the other doesn’t have it. I see it all the time in stores.

[bandit1250]

I started hunting with a brand new Winchester Model 37 410. Man I thought I was a big shot having a new Winchester at 7 years old. Even had to buy a hunting licence at that age living in Md. Dad hunted where there were a lot of big tough fox squirrels and he would sit me down and point out the spots not to shoot any farther than he showed me. I used the 3" shells and #6 shot and it handled those old fox squirrels really well. It was a full choke. The distance Dad would point out to me he said was 25 yds. or slightly more but never 30 yds. I would only want a 410 with a full choke as the pattern really gets thin past 25-30 yds. Dad always wished he would have bought some thing for me in a 28 ga.

[CT_Shooter]

I started hunting with a brand new Winchester Model 37 410. Man I thought I was a big shot having a new Winchester at 7 years old.

It's no wonder that you know so much about guns and are so good at working with them. You had a very special childhood. Thanks for the story.

[Mags]

My .410 is an older wood featured Mossberg 500 with vent rib 28 inch full choke barrel. I also use it on squirrels. Used both #4 and #6 shot. Found #4 works better.

[Cofisher]

Should the open cylinder bore be considered for a slug gun?

[Mags]

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If the cylinder bore is also a smooth bore (not rifled) then the answer should be yes. However, check with the manufacturer of your gun and ammo.
Except for Sabot type slugs which should only be used in a fully rifled barrel.

Should the open cylinder bore be considered for a slug gun?

[Yornoc3]

I, too, started hunting with a H&R .410 single shot, but at age 10, old compared to bandit . That 50 years ago period is my total experience with them, but, I have to wonder if modern ammo, with shot encasing wads, etc., wouldn't result in better patterns with less choke than the old days. In any event, a .410 is a less than 30 yard performer, especially with the 2 1/2 inch cartridges that the Henry lever actions use. I view the lever action .410's as more of a plinker (a spendy one, though) than a hunting gun.

I'm sure the single shot is chambered for 3 inch .410; that's the one they need to make in 28 ga. I'd need one of those .

[ESquared]

Henry's single shot 20 gauge has my eye, with a specific notion about taking it turkey hunting, which I haven't done in over 10 years. Back then, I had a semi-auto Winchester 12 ga which was painful to shoot, so it's gone away.

Anyway, I'm familiar enough with it all to have a basic understanding of chokes and ammo needing to play well together to get the desired pattern at 40 yds (or so) in order to take a turkey.

With there being no choke tubes for 20 ga. Henrys specifically, where would one start when it comes to finding out the best combination of tube/load?

[JEBar]

take a look at this link ===> https://www.henryusa.com/shotgun/single-shot-shotgun/ .... scroll down to 20 ga and click on the 2 little arrow heads .... click on Additional info .... scroll down and your find a diagram that might help ... in the data given they say " The 12 and 20 gauge in both brass and steel ship with a Modified Choke using Rem-Choke style threads which delivers a versatile shooting pattern for shooting at 25-45 yards, ideal for squirrels, rabbits, pigeons, doves, partridges, grouse, pheasant and wild flushing quail at medium range. " .... take the info from those two and it might help you decide

[ESquared]

Thanks, JEB. Modified choke is great for what they list, but turkey chokes are pretty much turkey chokes. Problem is, there are LOTS of 'em, and some are even tuned to work with certain turkey loads (Winchester, but I can't remember the name). Kinda like handgun and rifle ammo, the more I read, the more I'm learning that shotgun/turkey choke/turkey load is a fair amount of trial and error. Patterning at the range is paramount.

[JEBar]

when it comes to choke tubes, my "goto" authority is Carlson ===> http://www.choketube.com/ .... I've dealt with them for decades and have found them to be knowledgeable, courteous folks to work with .... when I've had questions, I call them, tell them what I have and what I want to do .... they've never given me bad advice on product choice (or anything else)

[ESquared]

Glad to hear your endorsement, JEB, as they seem like the front-runner in the turkey choke arena.

They've created the turkey choke that is specifically designed to perform with WInchester's Long Beard XR turkey loads, which are sold, by the way, in boxes of 10, it that tells you anything about price!

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articl ... hotshells/

https://www.amazon.com/Carlsons-70105-W ... B071VVNPKD