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1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:22 am
by Hrfunk
Hi all! Here is my first video of the new year and it's one of my favorites. In this one, I'm pitting my trusty '03 Springfield rifle against a modern day law enforcement qualification course. The course, and its time limits, were devised with a semi-automatic tactical carbine in mind. To see how the old war horse fares, click on the link below. Also, be sure to let me know your thoughts after you finish watching!

HRF

https://youtu.be/eoV6ZF11-5w

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:01 pm
by Henry88
Hey Hrfunk, great video and impressive that you did it on your first attempt.

Just a heads up, at 4:57 you say you will start in the low ready position, but at 5:15 you're already pointed at the target with both hands on the rifle when the buzzer goes off. Keep them coming..............

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:13 pm
by JEBar
well done .... thanks again for joining our community and for stimulating interesting conversations .... I well remember after WWII seeing barrels of 03's for sale in military surplus stores .... I now wish I'd done more than look and bought a couple ..... please visit our How Many ? thread (link below) and add your Henry to our community's total .... looking forward to your coming video range reports and observations


http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... 909#p79909

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:14 pm
by fortyshooter
Great shooting and video! I have a range neighbor who brings over his military weapons to shoot and it usually ends up in a "tactical" rebuild session!

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:50 pm
by Hrfunk
Thanks fellas! I admit I did not employ the "classic" low-ready position. That said, whenever I've actually operated with a tactical carbine, I carry it in a similar manner to the way I shot the '03. Which is to say it is just below my line of sight. If I need to fire, it is very fast to slightly raise the weapon and acquire the target. I'll call it "tactical low ready" (Because, of course putting the word "tactical" in front of anything automatically provides justification regardless of how silly the subject might be!). In any case, I actually did raise the rifle to my line of sight for each stage, if only slightly. So I felt as though I met the requirements of the course.

Thanks again!
Howard

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:56 pm
by Sir Henry
Impressive video!

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:47 pm
by shootinthecinders
Good shooting with the ‘03 under time constraints and an interesting, educational video. I appreciate the advice about thumb placement when operating the bolt while shooting left handed. I’ve never shot mine left handed; but if I ever do, thanks for the heads up.

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:57 pm
by Hrfunk
shootinthecinders wrote:Good shooting with the ‘03 under time constraints and an interesting, educational video. I appreciate the advice about thumb placement when operating the bolt while shooting left handed. I’ve never shot mine left handed; but if I ever do, thanks for the heads up.
You're welcome! My thumb has nearly recovered.

HRF

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:03 pm
by Sir Henry
shootinthecinders wrote:Good shooting with the ‘03 under time constraints and an interesting, educational video. I appreciate the advice about thumb placement when operating the bolt while shooting left handed. I’ve never shot mine left handed; but if I ever do, thanks for the heads up.
I’m a southpaw and when I shoot lefthanded I keep my right hand on the forearm and work the bolt over the top with my left hand. I believe most left hand shooters do this.

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:40 pm
by Sir Henry
I watched this a second time because I kept thinking about the way you were shooting left handed. I tried it your way and it gave me a new appreciation your shooting. It is far more physically demanding than going over the top. And it seems much faster.

I wish I had known this 50 years ago.

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:43 am
by Hrfunk
Sir Henry wrote:I watched this a second time because I kept thinking about the way you were shooting left handed. I tried it your way and it gave me a new appreciation your shooting. It is far more physically demanding than going over the top. And it seems much faster.

I wish I had known this 50 years ago.
I actually heard about this technique for running a right-handed bolt rifle from fellow Snipers who were left-handed. I never tried it before I made this video. Other than taking a few chunks out of my thumb, it worked well enough. Since time was an issue, I thought it would be the fastest way to cycle the bolt.

Howard

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:17 am
by Sir Henry
Hrfunk wrote:
Sir Henry wrote:I watched this a second time because I kept thinking about the way you were shooting left handed. I tried it your way and it gave me a new appreciation your shooting. It is far more physically demanding than going over the top. And it seems much faster.

I wish I had known this 50 years ago.
I actually heard about this technique for running a right-handed bolt rifle from fellow Snipers who were left-handed. I never tried it before I made this video. Other than taking a few chunks out of my thumb, it worked well enough. Since time was an issue, I thought it would be the fastest way to cycle the bolt.

Howard
Lee Harvey Oswald shot left handed and worked the bolt with his right hand but he had a sill to rest the forearm.

You are a remarkable shooter to be able to do that offhand.

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:20 am
by Hrfunk
Thank you!

Howard

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:04 pm
by BrokenolMarine
I had an 03 for years and have always regretted letting it go. I was young, Stationed in Hawaii with a couple kids at home and needed a lighter rifle to hunt mountainous areas in Hawaii. A member of our hunting club had a custom 308 he offered to trade even for that tack driver of a 30-06, and ... well; we have all made trades or sales we regret. (That wasn't the first or the last.) Mark was a local Gunsmith, and the foam injected fiberglass stock on the 308 was his own design. Featherweight, and made the rifle a beast to shoot but a dream to carry. :)

Great vid... I'm a fan.
:)

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:34 am
by Hrfunk
BrokenolMarine wrote:

Great vid... I'm a fan.
:)
Thank you!

Howard

Re: 1903 vs. Tactical Carbine Course

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:29 am
by Flinch
I am going to try the Ohio LEO Carbine Course with my 1903A1 for a change of pace, it looks like fun.

A few years back I got ahold of a 30 round qualification course that is used by police in my area and have fired it with the 1903A1. One of the toughest stages is moving from the 10 yard line to the 5 yard line while firing 4 body shots and 1 head shot in 5 seconds. It's tough to get 4 shots in on the move with a 100 year old bolt gun, I've never managed to get in all 5 shots.