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10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:47 pm
by ditto1958
Guys, my new CZ 452 is just ridiculous accurate. Here are my two best 3 shot groups from today, both at 100 yards:

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Ammo was Rifle Match:

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Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:49 pm
by ditto1958
When I ordered the 452, I expected it to be a good shooter, but not THAT good. I have very little experience trying to make small groups of holes in paper. To be honest, I don't really enjoy doing it all that much. But this rifle is actually making it fun. The Rifle Match ammo seemed to shoot better today than Eley Club. I also tried some RWS, but it seemed to be less accurate than the Eley.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:09 pm
by White Squirrel
It is just wrong to call those three shot groups because they are almost just one hole!

Nice shooting.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:39 pm
by Sir Henry
That is great shooting but I'm going to challenge you to shoot ten shots next time.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:06 pm
by ditto1958
Sir Henry wrote:That is great shooting but I'm going to challenge you to shoot ten shots next time.
Ten shots? I dunno- that ammo is kinda pricey. If you look, I had to buy a target with a penny stuck to it, as it was cheaper than the ones with dimes on them. :)

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:47 pm
by Sir Henry
ditto1958 wrote:
Sir Henry wrote:That is great shooting but I'm going to challenge you to shoot ten shots next time.
Ten shots? I dunno- that ammo is kinda pricey. If you look, I had to buy a target with a penny stuck to it, as it was cheaper than the ones with dimes on them. :)
Now that was funny. :lol:

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:04 pm
by ditto1958
Okay, I will compromise, but it's gotta be baby steps. We can try five shots instead of three next time. I'm gonna have to get me some targets with quarters on them, though.

By the way, that "Rifle Match" ammo, is that the brand name? It's made in Germany, and says nammo.com on it. On the nammo website, though, their brands are SK and Lapua. EDIT: Duh. Looked at the box again. It's kinda small, but says SK on it.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:22 pm
by Sir Henry
Yes it is made by SK in Germany. Someone had a thread about Wolf ammo that was made in Germany. Wolf is made by SK. If you get a chance can you post a closeup picture of the headstamp?

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:24 pm
by ditto1958
Sir Henry wrote:Yes it is made by SK in Germany. Someone had a thread about Wolf ammo that was made in Germany. Wolf is made by SK. If you get a chance can you post a closeup picture of the headstamp?
If you look at picture of the box I posted, the hole in the middle of the target has the head stamp of a round showing. I guess it's supposed to show a target with crosshairs over it?

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:39 pm
by PT7
ditto1958 wrote:When I ordered the 452, I expected it to be a good shooter, but not THAT good. I have very little experience trying to make small groups of holes in paper. To be honest, I don't really enjoy doing it all that much. But this rifle is actually making it fun. The Rifle Match ammo seemed to shoot better today than Eley Club. I also tried some RWS, but it seemed to be less accurate than the Eley.
Great POIs in those targets, Ditto! One hundred yards can be a challenge sometimes; it surely is for me with my elder eyes and iron sights. Were you shooting from a bench rest, or off hand?

I tend to shoot as you said: "I have very little experience trying to make small groups of holes in paper. To be honest, I don't really enjoy doing it all that much." Lately I've had some good, tight groups with my revolver, and getting a little tighter with my SGC. Tagging holes together, however, is cool. I'd like to experience a little more of that at times, but I know off hand shooting lessens that happening for me. I'd actually would like to put some holes in coins, too.

Anyway, you done good! Thanks for the good range report. Glad you enjoy that accurate-shootin' CZ!

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:48 pm
by ditto1958
PT, when I had my own backyard range down in Louisiana, I did mostly offhand shooting. Up here I shoot at a "real" range, mostly from a bench with sand bags.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:40 am
by RetiredSeabee
Every time I see a CZ range report I wonder why I don't have one yet.
Okay I also drool a little bit. It seems to be a Pavlovian response to beautiful rifles and great targets.
I really need to find a good 100 yard range so I will have no excuse not to have one of these amazing rifles.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:46 am
by ditto1958
RetiredSeabee wrote:Every time I see a CZ range report I wonder why I don't have one yet.
Okay I also drool a little bit. It seems to be a Pavlovian response to beautiful rifles and great targets.
I really need to find a good 100 yard range so I will have no excuse not to have one of these amazing rifles.
Do you have a 50 yard range? Actually, 100 yards is considered stretching it for .22 rifles. Most people seem to shoot them at 25 and 50 yards.

As for the 452 I bought, I ordered it from Whittaker Guns. Including shipping, and a $25 transfer fee from my FFL, it was still well under $400. An outstanding value, in my opinion.

The 452 is officially discontinued by CZ (with the exception of left hand models), but for some reason they still make them. The newer model 455's are of course available all over the place, in a full range of models. They tend to cost around $450, though. As a grumpy old guy, I prefer the 452, but most people seem to say the newer 455's are just fine.

I wish I had gotten a CZ sooner.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:50 am
by Sir Henry
I prefer the 452 for shooting but the 455 is much easier to work on and modify. I think Whittaker is the only one importing them.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:49 pm
by RetiredSeabee
ditto1958 wrote:
RetiredSeabee wrote:Every time I see a CZ range report I wonder why I don't have one yet.
Okay I also drool a little bit. It seems to be a Pavlovian response to beautiful rifles and great targets.
I really need to find a good 100 yard range so I will have no excuse not to have one of these amazing rifles.
Do you have a 50 yard range? Actually, 100 yards is considered stretching it for .22 rifles. Most people seem to shoot them at 25 and 50 yards.

As for the 452 I bought, I ordered it from Whittaker Guns. Including shipping, and a $25 transfer fee from my FFL, it was still well under $400. An outstanding value, in my opinion.

The 452 is officially discontinued by CZ (with the exception of left hand models), but for some reason they still make them. The newer model 455's are of course available all over the place, in a full range of models. They tend to cost around $450, though. As a grumpy old guy, I prefer the 452, but most people seem to say the newer 455's are just fine.

I wish I had gotten a CZ sooner.
No sir, right now I am stuck with a 25 yard indoor range.
I don't mind shooting my 10/22 there and I have Ruger American Rimfire that I take occasionally but would like to stretch it out to 50 or better.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:37 pm
by Bish1309
WOW, nice shootin'!!

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:01 pm
by bandit1250
According to the date on your target you didn't shoot that first target until next month. :lol: ;) I think I might get started shooting my targets a month in advance because we may get bad weather and can't shoot. ;) Enough harassing you in good fun. Any way that is some really good 100 yd. shooting with your CZ. They are amazing how well they shoot and are affordable and well made.

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:09 pm
by Deadwood Dutch
Good report and terrific shooting with a great rifle! At my age I would never try past 50 yds. with iron sights, probably should drop back to 25! :D

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:52 am
by ditto1958
bandit1250 wrote:According to the date on your target you didn't shoot that first target until next month. :lol: ;) I think I might get started shooting my targets a month in advance because we may get bad weather and can't shoot. ;) Enough harassing you in good fun. Any way that is some really good 100 yd. shooting with your CZ. They are amazing how well they shoot and are affordable and well made.
Lol. That's just one of many features CZ offers with their rifles. Can't make it to the range next week? No problem. Your CZ will shoot for you in advance. :)

Re: 10/19/16 More CZ Magic

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:13 am
by bandit1250
ditto1958 wrote:
bandit1250 wrote:According to the date on your target you didn't shoot that first target until next month. :lol: ;) I think I might get started shooting my targets a month in advance because we may get bad weather and can't shoot. ;) Enough harassing you in good fun. Any way that is some really good 100 yd. shooting with your CZ. They are amazing how well they shoot and are affordable and well made.
Lol. That's just one of many features CZ offers with their rifles. Can't make it to the range next week? No problem. Your CZ will shoot for you in advance. :)
I knew there was another reason I buy CZ rifles it just took some one to point it out to me. ;) Have fun with the CZ and shoot often.