H009 Range Day

[GFK]

Made it to the range today with my H009. Planned to shoot off-handed at 50 yards. But, the range was in use and did not want to disrupt the shooters' routine. So, I used the 25 yards range. After my wife got done with the handgun, I shoot a few rounds down range, had 13 total (4 Federals and 9 Winchesters, 150 grain). I seem to shoot better with the Federals. All were in the red. Winchesters, not as much. Nonetheless, it was a good day. Yet, I still don't like cleaning it. Even with 13 rounds, there is copper build up. I spend more time cleaning than shooting, not as much fun.

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[fortyshooter]

Nice shooting! I don't own a 30-30 but I haven't seen a lot of copper in my 5.56 Mini 14 or M1 Carbine when I clean the bore.

[GFK]

Thanks 40! I have had a copper fouling issue, sent I purchased it in 2017. I sent it back to Henry, thinking there was a problem. Henry cleaned it and sent it back, the same way. My Marlin 30-30 (336W) does not have near the same amount of copper fouling. Yet, it has that Micro-Grove type rifling. Does that a difference? I don't know. I just know that I spent twice to three times as long cleaning my Henry, than I do cleaning my Marlin. So, I seem to shoot my Marlins more. However, I do like the Henry. Therefore, I keep it around. It seems well made. But, I still think that the rifling may be rough.

[leverjc]

GFK good offhand shooting. I have only had a copper build up problem in one of my 30-30's, it was with a remlin. I fire lapped the bore and the problem went away. I have not had a problem with my other JM Marlin 336, a Winchester 94 or my Uberti 94. You could send it back to Henry again but my experience with Henry barrels it would be a crap shoot to get a better one.

[BigAl52]

Probably a dumb question but are you using a copper cleaner when cleaning?

[GFK]

Hey Big Al,

Not a dumb question. I use Tetra Gun. Below is a link to when I first posted about the copper fouling. After letting it set for awhile last night (15-30 minutes at a time), it was decent after a couple of hours. After reading my old post, I guess that I should have let it set for about an hour. But, it was late, around 10:00 PM or so. And, I had work in the morning. Yet, it was a late night anyway.

I ended up cleaning a S&W 360 earlier as well. The Blazer rounds that I used were dirty. They are off my list now. But, they were the only ones available, during the lockdown. Anyway, I spent a couple of hours on that also. It has a PVD finish; Ammonia is not its friend. So, I try and be careful while cleaning it.


LeverJC,

My Remlin seems fine. I don't know what a fire lap is. I think that I have read about it. But, it may be more than I am currently willing or able to do. Yet, I may check it out again. Thanks!

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... 6&start=10

[Mags]

Similar experience. My H009 copper fouls as well. I haven't attributed it to any particular ammo brand. I also use a TetraGun soak cleaning procedure.
Best shooting ammo I've found is Federal Fusion. Lousy in my experience, Winchester and Remington.

[GFK]

Thanks Mags. My experience has been similar. My Henry likes Federal. Winchester will do. But, my Marlin likes Winchester. Remington, not so much. So, I thought that I would meet in the middle by using Winchester, did not want to buy two different brands of ammo. Yet, I have rethought that. Now, I buy two different brands of ammo, if possible: one for Henry and one for Marlin. However, the Marlin seems to be more picky than the Henry. Therefore, I probably lean heavy on Winchester.

[GFK]

LeverJC,

This is what I found about fire lapping. Not a re-loader, so probably why I avoided that method. Of the methods listed, I probably will just keep shooting and cleaning. Thanks though!

https://www.ktgunsmith.com/firelapping.htm

[graywolf]

Good shooting.