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Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:03 am
by Sir Henry
I moved my gong over so I can see it from the table and set out a target in a bullet trap. Three shots later and I discovered I was shooting way low and getting ricochets. Not good as my bullets must impact the hill. At least they did collect in the trap and I was getting one ragged skid in the earth.

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You can barely see the target to the left of the further black hanger.

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CZ 452-2E American wearing a Leupold VX-3i 4.5-14x50mm shooting SK Standard Plus.

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Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:31 am
by Sir Henry
I’m getting closer. One more three shot group and I should be a lot closer. My bench is wobbly and that’s not helping my group. Plus I’m not trying my best as I’m more concerned about getting it zeroed.

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Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:39 am
by DsGrouse
nice. I've noticed as much as 14 inches of point of impact shift in various rounds of 22lr. I've had two sets of norma tac 22 shift over 7 inches left of one.
I spent a summer of 2014 trying to chase down a good load by brick. It was a wast of time. Now I buy a case, and sight in the rifle to that case of ammo. It isn't a perfect solution, but it keeps me mostly on target.
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:43 am
by Sir Henry
20 clicks up and three to the right. Three shots as the hole on the left is 2.

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Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:44 am
by Sir Henry
DsGrouse wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:39 am
nice. I've noticed as much as 14 inches of point of impact shift in various rounds of 22lr. I've had two sets of norma tac 22 shift over 7 inches left of one.
I spent a summer of 2014 trying to chase down a good load by brick. It was a wast of time. Now I buy a case, and sight in the rifle to that case of ammo. It isn't a perfect solution, but it keeps me mostly on target.
I don’t think this scope was ever sighted-in. I bought it about two months before I left Washington.
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:18 am
by DsGrouse
Yeah, I have done that a time or two.
The last time I took Kriss vector, I realized I had not sighted in my new red dot. only after shooting 100 rounds of 40sw. I spent another 50 rounds trying to get it zero'd before I realized I had thumb tightened the reddot on the rail
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:19 am
by Sir Henry
I had breakfast and it changed my shooting. Also the scope was adjusted too far. With food inside Mt stomach my heart rate increased and I’m finding it difficult to shoot between heartbeats.
I pulled the shot in the 10 ring. It’s zeroed where the two shots are. I think. I’m going to rest and digest for an hour.

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Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:49 am
by North Country Gal
Really like those Leupold 3i series scopes. It's been way, way too windy for any shooting over here this last week.
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:00 pm
by Sir Henry
North Country Gal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:49 am
Really like those Leupold 3i series scopes. It's been way, way too windy for any shooting over here this last week.
Today is the first day the wind hasn’t blown although sometimes at dusk it settles down. I’m going back out in a few minutes.
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:49 pm
by Sir Henry
I used my Nikon Aculon to measure the distance and when I moved it to the right I was at 48 yards so I set it back. The front plate is still at 48.

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The official measurement line is where the bricks end and the concrete begins. It started to rain and then snow so the chairs were wet. I end up standing with the bipod legs on the table.

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Now I’m low so I split the number of clicks. I should be zeroed now or maybe one click off. My group widened as I’m getting tired.

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Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:10 pm
by RanchRoper
Good shooting and nice range.
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:44 pm
by BrokenolMarine
Advice from an old rangemaster I took to heart. If you know you are tired, don't try to do anything serious on the range. (Sighting in, true match practice, load testing, etc.). If you still want to shoot, shoot. Ring steel, shoot reactive targets, or plink. Serious work when you are tired can be both counter productive and frustrating. You often have to come back and redo the serious work anyway.
I tried hard to keep that advice in mind. So...
I always tucked a fun gun in the bag.

Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:24 pm
by Sir Henry
BrokenolMarine wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:44 pm
Advice from an old rangemaster I took to heart. If you know you are tired, don't try to do anything serious on the range. (Sighting in, true match practice, load testing, etc.). If you still want to shoot, shoot. Ring steel, shoot reactive targets, or plink. Serious work when you are tired can be both counter productive and frustrating. You often have to come back and redo the serious work anyway.
I tried hard to keep that advice in mind. So...
I always tucked a fun gun in the bag.
I’m what you call a three hit wonder.
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:37 pm
by BrokenolMarine
Nothing negative was intended Sir. Hats off.
You noticed your shooting started to fade after you ate, and took a break, then came back at it. Later you pointed out that your groups began to spread as you tired. Outstanding.
As an instructor, I was watchful of new shooters who never thought that they were lifting and extending weights ahead of them in the handgun class. This is something most have never done. As they tired, they began to loose the gains they made, and it could both shake their confidence and turn out to be a waste of time and ammunition.

We either stopped for the day or shot large reactive targets to close on a positive.
Sorry if my post seemed like a critique.
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:18 am
by Sir Henry
BrokenolMarine wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:37 pm
Nothing negative was intended Sir. Hats off.
You noticed your shooting started to fade after you ate, and took a break, then came back at it. Later you pointed out that your groups began to spread as you tired. Outstanding.
As an instructor, I was watchful of new shooters who never thought that they were lifting and extending weights ahead of them in the handgun class. This is something most have never done. As they tired, they began to loose the gains they made, and it could both shake their confidence and turn out to be a waste of time and ammunition.

We either stopped for the day or shot large reactive targets to close on a positive.
Sorry if my post seemed like a critique.
No problem. You haven’t said anything that isn’t true. Tx gunrunner told me the same thing.
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:56 am
by North Country Gal
Marine is so right. My shooting coach when I was in junior high told me the same thing, since I took shooting so seriously that I had a tendency to practice to the point of getting pretty fatigued. He scolded again and again that it took longer to get rid of a bad habit than learn the right one, so take a break before that happens. Used to think he was picking on me since he watched me like a hawk compared to most of the other kids, but later learned it was just the opposite. Told me in private that I was worth the extra work. Great memories.
These days I tire quickly with my offhand shooting, so when I get tired, I shoot off a rest at steel. In my younger days, it was a shooting session down in the pasture with tin cans.
Re: Range Report: CZ at 50 yards
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:03 am
by Shakey Jake
NIce shooting!
Jake