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Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:55 am
by Sir Henry
Now that I’m back home I’m shopping for a replacement scope for my CZ. It currently has a Weaver Classic V-24 8-24x42mm.
If I go bigger than 42 on the objective I will need heigher mounts. The 42 barely clears the barrel with my current mounts. Not a deal breaker.
This picture is from the November Natchez catalog.
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I’m leaning towards the VX-5 HD series and the
3-15x44mm SF CDS -ZL2 for $949.99.
Any comments or suggestions? What I’m really looking for is enablers.
Re: Leupold scope for CZ American
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:11 pm
by John E Davies
What model CZ, caliber, and intended use? “American” describes the stock style, not the gun.... Those scopes are so far above what I would buy, all I could comment on would be power and rings. I prefer low scopes, so I generally don’t shop for large objectives.
John Davies
Spokane WA
Re: Leupold scope for CZ American
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:38 pm
by Sir Henry
John E Davies wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:11 pm
What model CZ, caliber, and intended use? “American” describes the stock style, not the gun.... Those scopes are so far above what I would buy, all I could comment on would be power and rings. I prefer low scopes, so I generally don’t shop for large objectives.
John Davies
Spokane WA
It’s a CZ 452-2E American in .17HMR and will be used for target. I did not know that it was about the stock. I thought it meant no sights and needed to be scoped. The stock does have a high comb.
I am replacing a Weaver Classic that has failed to keep the correct parallax.
This is the clearance with a 42mm bell w/adjustment. The line of sight is about right for the comb. If it went up slightly it would still be in a comfortable height.
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This is the problem. After a 2,200 some mile road trip the parallax was way off.
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Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:42 pm
by John E Davies
No worries. CZ has American models in three different ranges - rimfire, center fire short action (the most excellent 527), and the long action models for 30.06 sized calibers.
Since you are shooting .17 HMR, the more power the better. Little holes at really long distances. I have a 6-12x on my 455 .17HMR and it definitely is not enough magnification. How does yours shoot? Mine is a dead accurate laser beam.
For rings I like the BKL self centering ones for rimfire rails, they fit the slightly weird CZ rails just fine.
John Davies
Spokane WA
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:42 pm
by Sir Henry
The line of slight on the International (FS) is lower but about the same height above the stock depending on how far forward you like to weld. With the American it is almost the same.
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Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:47 pm
by Sir Henry
John E Davies wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:42 pm
No worries. CZ has American models in three different ranges - rimfire, center fire short action (the most excellent 527), and the long action models for 30.06 sized calibers.
Since you are shooting .17 HMR, the more power the better. Little holes at really long distances. I have a 6-12x on my 455 .17HMR and it definitely is not enough magnification. How does yours shoot? Mine is a dead accurate laser beam.
For rings I like the BKL self centering ones for rimfire rails, they fit the slightly weird CZ rails just fine.
John Davies
Spokane WA
I had a low priced 24x and it didn’t last. A height power really forces a shooter to hold steady. I’ll look at the BKL rings if the current ones aren’t high enough. With the scope I choose the current might work.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:23 pm
by Stump
BKL-253 mount and a Vortex Crossfire II 6-18x44 scope fits perfect on a CZ American. I use the exact mount on my Henry H001M with a Vortex 4-12x40 scope. The BKL rings and mounts do tend to set your scope a tad higher as I prefer that and is more comfortable to me.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:51 pm
by North Country Gal
Whatever you pick, I strongly recommend and AO or SF with any CZ rimfire.
The Leupold Freedom Rimfires are okay, but nowhere near the optics of my now discontinued Nikon Prostaff 3-9 EFRs. Personally, I like to keep scopes on the CZ Americans on the trim size to better balance the rifle, since I use all CZs, except the Vs, for offhand work so much. Again, we have a Leupold Freedom Rimfire in a 2-7x and one in a 3-9x with AO that are oaky, but my favorite rimfires wear the higher grade Leupold with AOs when they wear a Leupold. We use a spotting scope to check targets, so we do just fine with 4-12s and 6-18s.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:30 am
by Sir Henry
Stump wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:23 pm
BKL-253 mount and a Vortex Crossfire II 6-18x44 scope fits perfect on a CZ American. I use the exact mount on my Henry H001M with a Vortex 4-12x40 scope. The BKL rings and mounts do tend to set your scope a tad higher as I prefer that and is more comfortable to me.
Thanks I’ll take a look at the mounts. The scope I’m looking at has a 30mm tube so my 1” mounts won’t work.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:32 am
by Sir Henry
North Country Gal wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:51 pm
Whatever you pick, I strongly recommend and AO or SF with any CZ rimfire.
The Leupold Freedom Rimfires are okay, but nowhere near the optics of my now discontinued Nikon Prostaff 3-9 EFRs. Personally, I like to keep scopes on the CZ Americans on the trim size to better balance the rifle, since I use all CZs, except the Vs, for offhand work so much. Again, we have a Leupold Freedom Rimfire in a 2-7x and one in a 3-9x with AO that are oaky, but my favorite rimfires wear the higher grade Leupold with AOs when they wear a Leupold. We use a spotting scope to check targets, so we do just fine with 4-12s and 6-18s.
I’ll take a look at them Joanie. I’m purpose building it for benchrest at 100 yards so a AO is critical. I say that now.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:15 pm
by Sir Henry
I just ordered six scopes from Natchez to replace some vintage 3/4” and 7/8” tubes. I think they look great on a lever but they don’t work all that great.
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I bought:
2 Nikon ProStaff P3 3-9x50 matte BDC
2 Leupold VX Freedom 3-9x40 matte Rimfire MOA
1 Leupold VX Freedom 1.5-4x20 matte Pig-Plex
1 Leupold VX-3i 4.5-14x50 matte Duplex
and six rings of various heights.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:40 pm
by Sir Henry
I’m not rich folks. I bought all six scopes for less than one of these Zeiss scopes.
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Only one of the scopes I bought was NIB. The rest were refurbished or blemished.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:44 pm
by Hatchdog
Nice, there is a guy here in Spokane selling a nearly new Freedom 3-9x40 rimfire for $150. Ive been tempted but I like the 32mm, looks better on a lever in my opinion.
That’s a nice line up of scopes you have coming. You’re going to be busy mounting and sighting in, Oh Darn, right?
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:25 pm
by Sir Henry
Hatchdog wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:44 pm
Nice, there is a guy here in Spokane selling a nearly new Freedom 3-9x40 rimfire for $150. Ive been tempted but I like the 32mm, looks better on a lever in my opinion.
That’s a nice line up of scopes you have coming. You’re going to be busy mounting and sighting in, Oh Darn, right?
I paid $199. Regular price was $259. I like the looks of the smaller scopes myself. Unfortunately I can’t hit anything with them.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:28 pm
by North Country Gal
You'll love that Vx3i. Great optics.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:33 pm
by Sir Henry
I hope so. That one was the most expensive. My friend in TX has a couple Zeiss scopes. He shoots out to 600 yards at the range.
I’m thinking of putting the 1.5-4 scope on my Henry pump. At the 1.5 power I can keep both eyes open. I’m not familiar with the Pig-Plex and hope it’s good for shooting and following moving squirrels.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:47 pm
by BigAl52
Maybe back off on the pancakes eggs bacon and coffee on the day youre shooting for score. Might make the heartbeat go down
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:12 pm
by Sir Henry
I received an email with the tracking number for my scopes. I should have them by Thursday. I will have to sort through my rifles to determine which ones will get new glass.
Re: Leupold Scope for CZ American
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:50 am
by Sir Henry
I should have the scopes today. I usually see FedEx go by around 10 am.
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Re: Leupold And Nikon Scopes
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:10 pm
by Sir Henry
My scopes arrived today! All but one was a blemish or refurbished. They all looked new to me. The box on the left is new.
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This was a typical blemish.
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As you can see it wiped off. Then I discovered another blemish which wiped clean also.
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All six scopes appear to be brand spanking new! I was expecting scratches and dents. I don’t think any were ever mounted. My guess is the boxes were opened and maybe handled.
I’m a very happy camper.
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The bad news is I need tip-off and not Weaver rings.