Wheeler Professional Reticle Leveling System

[JEBar]

I have no clue how many scopes I've mounted on rifles and revolvers over the years .... the fact is, I usually get them close but never get them to when I look through the scope I don't realize the cross hairs are off a bit .... a while back I spoke with a fellow whose evaluations I trust and he highly recommended getting a Wheeler Professional Reticle Leveling System ===> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004T ... 0DER&psc=1 <=== a few minutes ago I pulled the trigger (pun intended ) and ordered one .... with a 5 star rating after 448 reviews on Amazon, I figure it must work .... when it arrives my hope is to keep it busy for a while correctly mounting scopes on a good number of rifles

[Cofisher]

Interesting.

[tractortad]

Looks like a useful tool - let us know how well it works out for you...

[Henry88]

I use to struggle leveling scopes; tighten them and they move have to redo........

These type systems make it a pleasure.

[JEBar]

just checked and per Amazon tracking, the Wheeler Leveling System should be here today .... from watching numerous videos about using it, they all demonstrate a need to be able to hold the rifle steady while installing a scope .... that leads me to looking at Gun Vices .... the two I'm leaning toward are the Tipton Best Gun Vise ===> https://www.amazon.com/Tipton-181181-Be ... D1Y5JHFD76 <=== and the Lyman Revolution Gun Vise ===> https://www.amazon.com/Lyman-7832250-Re ... n+gun+vise <=== comments from anyone who may have experience with either vice or know of a better option would be appreciated

[tractortad]

I've got a Tipton "Best Gun Vise" - it's ok, but it's plastic and sometimes you wish you had the capability to turn the rifle on it's side like the Lyman. I didn't buy the Lyman because of the less than stellar reviews. I also bought an MTM gun vise - less expensive than both the Tipton and Lyman - I think dollar for dollar, the MTM is the best value for a "plastic" vise - it's also American made. The plastic vices work, but they flex under pressure and always felt a little cheap to me - especially when you need to really hold the rifle for torquing a screw or pushing a tight cleaning rod down the barrel. I finally bit the bullet and got the "Versacradle" from Berry's Manufacturing (same guys who make bullets). It is crazy expensive, but it is a really heavy duty vise - really holds any rifle in about any position and gives you a confident feeling that the gun won't move on you while you're working on it. I wish I had bought it from the start, because it's the only vise I use, now.,..

[JEBar]

I've got a Tipton "Best Gun Vise" - it's ok, but it's plastic and sometimes you wish you had the capability to turn the rifle on it's side like the Lyman. I didn't buy the Lyman because of the less than stellar reviews.

I finally bit the bullet and got the "Versacradle" from Berry's Manufacturing (same guys who make bullets). It is crazy expensive, but it is a really heavy duty vise - really holds any rifle in about any position and gives you a confident feeling that the gun won't move on you while you're working on it. I wish I had bought it from the start, because it's the only vise I use, now.,..

info most certainly appreciated .... well understood on the evaluations stating concern about them being plastic and somewhat flimsy .... what have you heard about Tipton's Ultra Gun Vise ===> https://www.amazon.com/Tipton-110011-Ul ... a+gun+vise <=== according to their literature and video, they have addressed flimsy issue though metal braces .... I'd never heard of the VersaCradle, most interesting but as you note, crazy expensive .... so much so that it would take some serious convincing for my CFO (chief female officer)

[Les]

I have the Lyman Revolution vice. It's well made, even though the majority of it is plastic. It holds the rifle securely, and the ability to rotate the rifle 45° either side of vertical is very useful.

I doubt whether it would stand up to much 'professional level' gunsmithing, but for mounting scopes and for cleaning/repairs etc, I think it's very good.

[tractortad]

I've got a Tipton "Best Gun Vise" - it's ok, but it's plastic and sometimes you wish you had the capability to turn the rifle on it's side like the Lyman. I didn't buy the Lyman because of the less than stellar reviews.

I finally bit the bullet and got the "Versacradle" from Berry's Manufacturing (same guys who make bullets). It is crazy expensive, but it is a really heavy duty vise - really holds any rifle in about any position and gives you a confident feeling that the gun won't move on you while you're working on it. I wish I had bought it from the start, because it's the only vise I use, now.,..

info most certainly appreciated .... well understood on the evaluations stating concern about them being plastic and somewhat flimsy .... what have you heard about Tipton's Ultra Gun Vise ===> https://www.amazon.com/Tipton-110011-Ul ... a+gun+vise <=== according to their literature and video, they have addressed flimsy issue though metal braces .... I'd never heard of the VersaCradle, most interesting but as you note, crazy expensive .... so much so that it would take some serious convincing for my CFO (chief female officer)

First I've heard of the Tipton "Ultra Gun Vise" - looks like it is heavier duty and a lot more adjustable than their "Best Gun Vise" - don't know if it's worth the extra $100 over an MTM or not - probably worth checking out in person at a Cabella's....

[JEBar]

I can find a link to an MTM gun vise ?

[JEBar]

as promised, Amazon delivered the Wheeler Reticle Leveling System today .... first impressions are very favorable .... appears to be solidly made .... install instructions and illustrations are clear .... I plan to put it to work as soon as I can come up with a way to keep the rifles still while working on them

[tractortad]

I can find a link to an MTM gun vise ?

The company is called MTM Case-Gard. They also make ammo boxes. I'd include the link if I knew how to do it...

[JEBar]

The company is called MTM Case-Gard. They also make ammo boxes. I'd include the link if I knew how to do it...

found it .... to post a link, copy it .... put your cursor where you want to put the link .... click on the URL button that is just above the rectangular box where you type your message .... past the link between the boxes ... when you submit the post the link will be there

[JEBar]

earlier today I used the Wheeler system to adjust two rifle scopes .... I have to admit that I'm impressed .... with the first one I followed the steps given in the directions, the process went smoothly .... with the second, because of the logical sequence they recommend, I didn't need to refer to the directions .... my plan is to adjust several more tomorrow

[JEBar]

update :

yesterday and again today I spent several hours remounting scopes on three different rifles .... with each of the first two, I was able to get the cross hairs aligned so that the vertical cross hair was straight up .... unfortunately, when I shouldered the rifle and looked through the scope, the top of that cross hair appeared to me to be a bit off to the left .... as I was setting up the third rifle (a 1970 Browning BLR 308) I decided to deliberately rotate the scope a bit to the right .... to my delight, when I shouldered the rifle and looked through the scope, the cross hairs appeared to be perfectly aligned .... in short, my natural hold doesn't position the sides of the rifle straight up .... my current plan is to readjust the first two (our Henry CCH 45-70 and BBS 44 mag) .... now I have yet another motivation to get back out on a range

[Henry88]

JEBar,

An interesting post on the Yellow Forum (Airgun) I came across'

http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/th ... and+Thread

Basically it calls into concern the use of scope caps as a reference of level. I don't know, I never had a problem but the yellow forum group is about as "anal retentive as you can get", so I thought I would pass it along.

[JEBar]

interesting, link appreciated .... like you, I've never had an issue with using the top scope cap .... down the line it I have an unexpected problem, that gives me something to check

[2guns]

I shoot a lot of long range guns and the wheeler isn't that cheaply made. I don't even think of letting a gun store mount any of mine. The wheeler set up is great and so is their fat Torque wrench.

[Rangerhgm]

I've got the Wheeler Fat Wrench, the Wheeler Professional Leveling System and the Tipton Ultra Gun Vise......I would highly recommend all 3 products.