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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by GFK » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:42 pm

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What is “not aligned”? I mounted mine on my Marlin 1895 GS, so I’m not sure if the mounting procedure is different for a Henry?

What color sight did you order? I don’t think any of the colors are supposed to be shiny/polished?
I ordered one without optics. But, one with green optics is being sent to me. I think the optics will help with aligning the rear and front sights. When I focus on the front sight, the points of the sides of the cloverleaf are very faint. So much so, it seems like a ghost ring. At least with a semi-buckhorn, the top of the front post could be aligned with the top of the semi-buckhorn cutout.

The main difference between a Marlin rear sight and a Henry's (that I can see) is a Marlin rear sight does fold. So, it should not block any view of the cloverleaf. As far as shiny, the base is dull at some spots. But, it does seem to shine up, with some work.
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by Redthies » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:39 pm

I mentioned the ghost ring effect earlier, and you describe it perfectly. If you focus a bit more on them, the points of the Cloverleaf come into play. I think the FOs are a similar thing. You need to focus on them a bit. Once you start shooting it a bit, you’ll figure out what works best for you. They also sell a standard aperture if you decide the Cloverleaf is not for you.
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by GFK » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:14 am

Update:

Well, I got the optic (seems more like fishing line) in for my Cloverleaf yesterday. I installed it last night (cut and melt in place). It does offer a better reference point for aligning the the front sight. Also, I did speak with Ranger Point Precision about two tone the finish on the base. It is suppose to be some type of protective coating. But, it seems to me that it may not have been applied to well. Anyway, I will give the Cloverleaf with optics a thumb up. I have not used a Ghost Ring. However, it seems that it would work better with respect to accuracy.

It is a nice day. Hopefully, I will make it to the range. Yet, my other half has plans for us. So, I will see have things unfold. I did make it last week. But, I took my 1894C instead. I am still trying to get use to it.

Below are some photos of the process of installing optics on a Cloverleaf:
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by Mags » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:43 pm

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I'd read about installing these, but this the first I've seen it in pictures. Thank you for sharing the process!
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Update:

Well, I got the optic ...
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by BigAl52 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:30 pm

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I hope you report back after shooting that. Im real curious how you like it
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by markiver54 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:32 pm

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GFK
I hope you report back after shooting that. Im real curious how you like it
I too like the looks of that clover leaf!
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by GFK » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:09 am

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I hope you report back after shooting that. Im real curious how you like it
I plan to. It was raining when got back yesterday. And, there is a forecast of more rain today. So, I will probably have to wait until the weekend. Unless, I play hooky from work. :)
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by BigAl52 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:26 pm

Go ahead on the hooky from work inquiring minds are waiting
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by Mags » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:07 pm

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Do so :mrgreen:
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... I will probably have to wait until the weekend. Unless, I play hooky from work. :)
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by markiver54 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:38 pm

Shame on Ya'll..... :lol:
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by Mags » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:38 am

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Have no idea what you mean 8-) I am so shameless :lol:
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Shame on Ya'll..... :lol:
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by GFK » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:57 pm

Well, I did not play hooky from work. But, the sun did come out for a few hours yesterday. So, I beat feet to the range. So far, I like the Cloverleaf. The sight picture is much better than the semi-buckhorn (of course, not as good as a scope). It is great as far as open sights go. I was able to align the front post much better. Without any adjustments, I shot high and to the left (at 25 yards). I was about to adjust down and to the right (1 turn of elevation and 1 marking of windage). Not where I want to be though. Windage seems fine. But, I think I will try another 1/2 to full turn of elevation. I hope to get to the range again this weekend.

I shot 14 rounds (2-3 rounds groups), adjusting for windage than elevation. I was shooting Winchester Power-Point 150 grain. I had a mixed box of 20 (14 Winchesters, 4 Federals, 2 Hornadys). I did not think that I would get a chance to shoot 14 rounds. But, I did. I plan to pick up another box for this weekend. I will post the range results from yesterday tonight. If I can get a decent group at 100 yards (within an 8" area), I will be happy. I am looking for a grouping well enough for hunting. I like to have another rifle for hunting without a scope.
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by Mags » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:12 pm

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Thanks for the update. Looking forward to the next one.
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Well, I did not play hooky from work. But, the sun did come out for a few hours yesterday. So, I beat feet to the range. So far, I like the Cloverleaf. The sight picture is much better than the semi-buckhorn (of course, not as good as a scope). It is great as far as open sights go. I was able to align the front post much better. Without any adjustments, I shot high and to the left (at 25 yards). I was about to adjust down and to the right (1 turn of elevation and 1 marking of windage). Not where I want to be though. Windage seems fine. But, I think I will try another 1/2 to full turn of elevation. I hope to get to the range again this weekend.

I shot 14 rounds (2-3 rounds groups), adjusting for windage than elevation. I was shooting Winchester Power-Point 150 grain. I had a mixed box of 20 (14 Winchesters, 4 Federals, 2 Hornadys). I did not think that I would get a chance to shoot 14 rounds. But, I did. I plan to pick up another box for this weekend. I will post the range results from yesterday tonight. If I can get a decent group at 100 yards (within an 8" area), I will be happy. I am looking for a grouping well enough for hunting. I like to have another rifle for hunting without a scope.
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by GFK » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:01 pm

Below are my initial adjustments. As shown, I still have some work to do. But if I do my part (keep the rifle steady through the firing process), I should get to where I want to be.
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by markiver54 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:56 pm

I would say, your grouping, on target results look pretty good already.
Dialing it in even better is not far away.
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by Mags » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:55 pm

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Good to see progress being made. Very close.
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Below are my initial adjustments. As shown, I still have some work to do. But if I do my part (keep the rifle steady through the firing process), I should get to where I want to be.

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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by GFK » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:34 pm

Thanks for the encouragement.
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by BigAl52 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:53 pm

GFK Im wondering if you have a skinner to compare it to. Id like to know what you think of that. Scopes are always going to be better but Im still thinking for me a red dot might be the way I go.
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by GFK » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:20 pm

BigAl52 wrote:
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GFK Im wondering if you have a skinner to compare it to. Id like to know what you think of that. Scopes are always going to be better but Im still thinking for me a red dot might be the way I go.
BigAl52,
I do not have a Skinner. But, I have shot an AR-15 with a Red Dot. A guy at the club wanted me to shoot his AR-15. I think he was trying to convince me that I needed one. He asked if I wanted one now. I told him I was good with my lever action. At any rate, it seems hard to go wrong with a Red Dot, just point and shoot. I was shooting metal plates at 50 yards. Just lined up the dot and let it ripped (single shots at a time though). If I recall, it did require batteries though. That would be a downer for me. It would be one more thing that could go wrong.
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Re: Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

Post by BigAl52 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:27 pm

Batterys in a red dot are not a big deal. They usually use a cr2032 and most have auto shut off after a period of non use. Easy to throw a 2032 in your shooting box and of the several I own I have yet to change a battery. Its really just personal choice and to each there own. Im attracted to this Ranger sight because of the fiber optics Old guys like that glowing part they offer.
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