Ranger Point CloverLeaf Peep Sight?

[Mags]

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Yup that otta do.

I finally managed to put some rounds through my .45-70 with the RPP Cloverleaf this past Friday. It was under pretty much ideal conditions. Got up a 1:30 am, loaded the truck and drove 3 hours over two 5,000’ passes in rain, then drove 1/2 mile off the freeway in to an old gravel pit near one of my hunting spots. Parked the truck at 5:15 am in pitch dark, but left the light bar on. Walked out 100 paces, stood up piece of 1/8” mdf with 1.5” masking tape squares. (This was because my apprentice was with me and had a new scope mounted on his Model 70, and had yet to fire a single shot). I walked 50 back towards the truck, and let one rip...

Figured that was good enough for a deer.

[BigAl52]

Im thinking about ordering one to try out myself. I really like the fiber optic stuff myself.

[GFK]

The long and short of it is, Ranger Point Precision makes great products, and I would recommend them to anyone.

Thanks for the feedback. I have been thinking about a peep sight and looked at Ranger Point Precision. But, I did not like the price. So, I keep looking. Now, I may look again at Ranger Point Precision and let go of the funds.

[Mags]

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Me too. Light pipes are amazing, really simple concept that someone had an ah ha moment in putting together and taking to market.

... I really like the fiber optic stuff myself.

[GFK]

Well, I pulled the trigger. I ordered a CloverLeaf without fiber optic. Since I am not planning to replace the front post, I am concern able my focus point.

[BigAl52]

GFK
Do you have a skinner sight at all? If so Id like to know what you think looking thru the clover leaf compared to the skinner.

[GFK]

So, you’ve read this far, now for my conclusions... Both sights are very well made. There is definitely “more going on” with the RPP over Skinner’s, and that’s not a bad thing. The design of RPPs is very well thought out, and gives you a more precise adjustment. RPPs parts are definitely works of art.

I haven’t shot the RPPs yet, and likely won’t have a chance for a few weeks. But my thought is (shared by my 30 year old apprentice who is also a target shooter and hunter) that the RPP sights will give you an edge for accuracy at the range, and in a hunting situation where the light is low (I’ll test this at dusk tonight and report back), or where you have a few seconds to line up that tricky shot. We both felt that the Skinners could possibly have an advantage for quick shots in better light. There is just less to distract your eye, and if it’s a fast shot in good light, the fibre optics combined with the cloverleaf design take a second or so for your eye to sort out.

The thing to me that really helps the RPP win favor is the wings to protect the peep. If Andy milled those into his Express sights, I’m not sure I would have tried the RPP. The peep is just really exposed on Skinner’s sight, and I worry it will get knocked or bent at some point. That’s probably a bit of a paranoia, but chit does happen when you are sliding around on wet moss covered rocks and roots here in the PNW.

The long and short of it is, Ranger Point Precision makes great products, and I would recommend them to anyone.

GFK
Do you have a skinner sight at all? If so Id like to know what you think looking thru the clover leaf compared to the skinner.

BigAl52,

I do not have a Skinner Sight, I thought about it though. I based my decision in part on Redthies feedback. By chance, do you have a Skinner Sight? I was thinking about getting one for my Marlin 1894C. I am planning to shoot it at ranges of less than 100 yards. So, I figure a Skinner Sight would work, if I am unhappy with the semi-buckhorn. But, the semi-buckhorn has been fine, so far out to 50 yards.

Of course, a scope is better than a Skinner or CloverLeaf sight (as far as accuracy is concerned). The iron (open) sights allow for being on target quicker. Yet, I am thinking that the CloverLeaf may be more accurate at 100 yards or so than the Skinner, which is the range I am planning on shooting my H009. I am looking for accuracy and quick follow-up without over powering the traditional look.

P.S.
It is en route and expected delivery is Friday. So, I may get a chance to try it out this weekend.

[Redthies]

BigAl52,

I do not have a Skinner Sight, I thought about it though. I based my decision in part on Redthies feedback. By chance, by you have a Skinner Sight? I was thinking about getting one for my Marlin 1894C. I am planning to shoot it at ranges of less than 100 yards. So, I figure a Skinner Sight would work, if I am unhappy with the semi-buckhorn. But, the semi-buckhorn has been fine, so far out to 50 yards.

Of course, a scope is better than a Skinner or CloverLeaf sight (as far as accuracy is concerned). The iron (open) sights allow for being on target quicker. Yet, I am thinking that the CloverLeaf may be more accurate at 100 yards or so than the Skinner, which is the range I am planing on shooting my H009. I am looking for accuracy and quick follow-up without over powering the traditional look.

P.S.
It is en route and expected delivery is Friday. So, I may get a chance to try it out this weekend.

I have two Skinner sighted Henrys. Both are receiver mounts. For target shooting, I think the RPP is definitely a better choice due to the extra options for sighting. The FOs and Cloverleaf points give you a better option to tune your POI. So far, neither of those extra features have come in to play for me in the hunting season, but the FOs could be helpful in lower light situations.

The Cloverleaf acted a lot like a ghost ring unless you actually made the effort to focus on the points. It’s kind of like 3 sights in one.

GFK, I hope you like your RPP sight and look forward to your thoughts on it after you get it mounted up and hopefully some range time soon!

[BigAl52]

The only skinner sights I have are on the SGC Henrys I have in 22 and 22 Mag. I like them so far but I think Im going to experiment with the 2 larger size apertures to see f I can pick up on the front sight a little better. For me that gold bead on the front sight leaves a little to be desired using the skinner sights.

[GFK]

The only skinner sights I have are on the SGC Henrys I have in 22 and 22 Mag. I like them so far but I think Im going to experiment with the 2 larger size apertures to see f I can pick up on the front sight a little better. For me that gold bead on the front sight leaves a little to be desired using the skinner sights.

Okay. Thanks.

[Redthies]

The only skinner sights I have are on the SGC Henrys I have in 22 and 22 Mag. I like them so far but I think Im going to experiment with the 2 larger size apertures to see f I can pick up on the front sight a little better. For me that gold bead on the front sight leaves a little to be desired using the skinner sights.

I agree 100%. The brass bead on the factory sight is really hard to see through the peep. My .357 has one of Andy’s Patridge front sights on it, and I’m considering getting the smaller version of his Patridge to replace the front on my SGC.

[BigAl52]

Another thought I had was to get a marbles front sight that was fiber optic.

[BigAl52]

I received a couple of bigger apertures today from skinner. Next size up from the one they send you on SGC seems to give me a little clearer picture of the front sight. Checked it out tonight after installing it. I havent shot it yet but when I do I will report back

[markiver54]

I received a couple of bigger apertures today from skinner. Next size up from the one they send you on SGC seems to give me a little clearer picture of the front sight. Checked it out tonight after installing it. I havent shot it yet but when I do I will report back

Will be interested in your report Al. Been thinking of doing the same on my SGC.

[GFK]

GFK, I hope you like your RPP sight and look forward to your thoughts on it after you get it mounted up and hopefully some range time soon!

Well, I get the sight in and mounted. I am not aligning the front sight as I thought I might without the optics. So, I have requested an exchanged. But, I still may attempt to make it to the range and see how it works.

My first impression, I thought the finish would be more polished. I found myself trying to buff out some dull spots. At $110, I was not expecting that. Also, I removed the ramp for the rear sight. The semi-buckhorn was blocking the front sight. Elevation was at zero though. I left the rear sight on, in case I want to use it again. I did not want to attempt to re-zero it. It may not be an issue once sighted in.

[BigAl52]

GFK
Good to know on the finish. I dont blame you for being disappointed. Maybe you need to contact them about it. Also Im not sure I follow you on the first part of the post about aligning with the front sight. Maybe a picture would help.

[GFK]

Update: Well, I received an e-mail that a cloverleaf with green fiber optics would be sent out Monday. As far as the finish, a silicone rug seems to be polishing it up. But, it is taking time. Since the rear sight is a cloverleaf, I expected to be able to use the side points to align the front post horizontally. I have not used ghost rings. But, the sight seems like it would work as one. I suspect the optics will allow for a better horizontal reference point, which should allow for a more accurate shot. However, I plan to find out.

[Redthies]

Well, I get the sight in and mounted. I am not aligning the front sight as I thought I might without the optics. So, I have requested an exchanged. But, I still may attempt to make it to the range and see how it works.

My first impression, I thought the finish would be more polished. I found myself trying to buff out some dull spots.

I’m not sure what you mean by the first part I quoted? What is “not aligned”? I mounted mine on my Marlin 1895 GS, so I’m not sure if the mounting procedure is different for a Henry?

What color sight did you order? I don’t think any of the colors are supposed to be shiny/polished?

[BigAl52]

I think i get it now. I think he ordered a sight W/O the fiber optics. The finish hes is mentioning is the actual base itself. Its shinny in some parts but not in others. He is thinking that the fiber optics will help with picking up the points of the cloverleaf for side to side alignment of the front sight. Is this right GFK

[GFK]

Bingo! You got BigAl. Sorry if I was not clearer with my explanation. The base has some dull spots. Seem like a film of some type of residue. Yes, the choice to order a cloverleaf without optics seems not to be the better choice. But, I still my try it. It is cloudy here today. So, it will be under less than ideal conditions. Yet, any time to shoot is a good time.

Another thought that I have, the set screw for elevation pushes against the top of the receiver. I wondering if it will damage the bluing if I adjust it. The spring of the cloverleaf is not that strong. So, it may not take much effort to adjust it.