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Re: Too much scope?

Post by markiver54 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:44 pm

Thanks Mags, It was Nikon I was thinking of. Memory was a bit off.
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Re: Too much scope?

Post by Sumaru » Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:20 am

markiver54 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:46 am
Rifletom wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:34 am
I have a Weaver Classic 1-3x20mm on .357 and a Leupold 2-7x33mm on the .45 Colt. Both Henry's. Good with clearance, eye relief is fine on both.
The Leupold is a shotgun scope; very slim package. Works.
I have the same Weaver on my BBS 357, with the hammer extension. I like the setup given the limited distance the 357 is capable of.

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I think the hammer extension is a great idea. Just cycling the empty action a few times to check the ergonomics with the mounted scope, there was a slip or two letting the hammer down. Not good! And that was without the adrenaline dump. Opted for the ambidextrous extension; maybe I'm overthinking things, but went that route thinking the gun would wear evenly with equal weight coming down on each side of the hammer.
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Re: Too much scope?

Post by Sir Henry » Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:59 am

Sumaru wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:20 am
markiver54 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:46 am
Rifletom wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:34 am
I have a Weaver Classic 1-3x20mm on .357 and a Leupold 2-7x33mm on the .45 Colt. Both Henry's. Good with clearance, eye relief is fine on both.
The Leupold is a shotgun scope; very slim package. Works.
I have the same Weaver on my BBS 357, with the hammer extension. I like the setup given the limited distance the 357 is capable of.

20181201_111131.jpg
I think the hammer extension is a great idea. Just cycling the empty action a few times to check the ergonomics with the mounted scope, there was a slip or two letting the hammer down. Not good! And that was without the adrenaline dump. Opted for the ambidextrous extension; maybe I'm overthinking things, but went that route thinking the gun would wear evenly with equal weight coming down on each side of the hammer.
I shoot both left and right so having it extend on both sides would work better for me.
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Re: Too much scope?

Post by Luv the lever » Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:47 pm

50mm seems large and and optics will require hammer extension install.
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Re: Too much scope?

Post by JEBar » Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:05 pm

way back in time (AKA - my younger days) the rule of thumb we followed for selecting the magnification power of a scope was 1 power per every 10 yards you anticipated shooting .... for us, our Henry 357 and 44 Mags are 100 yard guns .... so good 3 X 9 scopes works well
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Re: Too much scope?

Post by markiver54 » Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:50 pm

JEBar wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:05 pm
way back in time (AKA - my younger days) the rule of thumb we followed for selecting the magnification power of a scope was 1 power per every 10 yards you anticipated shooting .... for us, our Henry 357 and 44 Mags are 100 yard guns .... so good 3 X 9 scopes works well
That makes a whole lotta sense to me. :idea:
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Re: Too much scope?

Post by Sumaru » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:23 pm

Luv the lever wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:47 pm
50mm seems large and and optics will require hammer extension install.
After mounting it, I have to agree, it seems too large. Is there any appreciable difference between 40 & 50mm where light gathering and field of view is concerned?
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Re: Too much scope?

Post by Sumaru » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:25 pm

JEBar wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:05 pm
way back in time (AKA - my younger days) the rule of thumb we followed for selecting the magnification power of a scope was 1 power per every 10 yards you anticipated shooting .... for us, our Henry 357 and 44 Mags are 100 yard guns .... so good 3 X 9 scopes works well
That's what I'm running, a 3-9. Any take on the 50mm vs 40mm objective? Is 50mm overkill?
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Re: Too much scope?

Post by Mags » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:34 pm

Sumaru wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:25 pm
... Any take on the 50mm vs 40mm objective? Is 50mm overkill?
50 a little better for pre-dawn, dusk, and shooting into shadowed areas.
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Re: Too much scope?

Post by North Country Gal » Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:55 am

Sumaru wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:25 pm
JEBar wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:05 pm
way back in time (AKA - my younger days) the rule of thumb we followed for selecting the magnification power of a scope was 1 power per every 10 yards you anticipated shooting .... for us, our Henry 357 and 44 Mags are 100 yard guns .... so good 3 X 9 scopes works well
That's what I'm running, a 3-9. Any take on the 50mm vs 40mm objective? Is 50mm overkill?
Sumaro, as a gal who made a living selling optical equipment - binoculars, telescopes, microscopes, spotting scopes and riflescopes - my advice is to not overplay the importance of objective (front lens) diameter for the purposes of image brightness. Yes, it is an important part of image brightness, but it is not the only factor, not by a long shot. You can't just take one feature and assume all scopes are the same. It's just not that easy when comparing different scopes. Other factors are very important. I don't want to start a mini course on optics, but assuming the same 6x magnification, a 40mm lens with high grade lenses and top of the line lens coatings can appear every bit as bright in low light as a cheap 50mm scope at 6x with cheap lenses and coatings. And that's just the beginning of the conversation.

Okay, if the science of optics is not your thing, I also used to hunt back in the day, early morning, late evening. I can't think of a single low light situation where a quality 40mm scope was not bright enough to make a legal/ethical shot. Emphasis is on quality, here. Never underestimate the importance of optical quality.

PS. I never had a customer who ever came back and complained that I sold them too good a quality optic. :)
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