Suggest a rifle for markiver54

[North Country Gal]

Good for you, Mark. Glad you found some pellets.

FYI, the open rear sight/globe front sight setup that is standard on HW springers is excellent, about as good as it gets in open sights. The rear sight allows you to change blade notch width and is click adjustable.

Almost all airguns sold today have an 11mm rail for scope mounting. This incudes all HW rifles. You'll have no problem finding very affordable 11mm scope rings, if and when you want to go with a scope.

The only requirement for an airgun scope for something like the HW30 is that it has a AO for parallax adjustment, since you will be shooting at short ranges. Be gad to help when you are ready.

[markiver54]

Thanks to everyone! I've pretty much decided that when I can afford/justify the purchase that it will be the HW30.

[daytime dave]

Very nice Mark. I hope to hear all about it when it arrives down the road.

[markiver54]

Although not in a hurry to purchase right now, I have decided that most of my shooting would be small game/pest control. I'm thinking .22 cal. might be best for this...? Been doing some casual looking at the break barrels for under $300.00. I'm hoping to get an opinion or two on the Gamo brand. Looking online at the Swarm Fusion 10X Gen 3. $268.00 right now on Amazon. No open sights though, which probably would be ok because of my old eyes. I'd still like to have the option, but, It does come scoped. Probably a junk scope, but I could replace it with a better one...? Actually, I'd prefer using a scope if it will stay true.
I have not ruled out previously mentioned brands/models, but still just looking.

[BigAl52]

Just my opinion but Gamo is China crap. Get the Weihrauch its a much better rifle.

[markiver54]

Just my opinion but Gamo is China crap. Get the Weihrauch its a much better rifle.

FWIW...Gamo is made in Barcelona, Spain. They are the largest manufacturer of air guns in Europe and have been in business for 60 years. Don't know how good that is, but at least it ain't China.

[BigAl52]

Just my opinion but Gamo is China crap. Get the Weihrauch its a much better rifle.

FWIW...Gamo is made in Barcelona, Spain. They are the largest manufacturer of air guns in Europe and have been in business for 60 years. Don't know how good that is, but at least it ain't China.

Ok I will retract the China made comment as I was looking at one a while back in PCP that was made in China by another company. But I still think you would get a better gun with the German made Weihrauch

[markiver54]

I hear Ya Al. I'm not doubting that the Weirauch brand may be a better one. Just looking at as many possibilities as I can. Again; for me, every penny counts, especially considering that a less expensive rifle might serve me just as well for my expected use.
I have a whole list of wants/needs that I have to take into consideration and keep my priorities in the correct order.
Maybe I need to go back to work.........No, I don't think so.

[North Country Gal]

Mark, just to let you know, the learning curve to shoot a piston gun is the same for spring and gas (nitro) piston guns, and the more powerful the piston gun, the greater the recoil and thus the greater the challenge. Do not take the hype about gas piston guns being easier to shoot than spring piston guns seriously. As far as learning to shoot a piston gun, it's a matter of recoil, regardless of whether it's produced by a spring or gas piston setup. Power makes for great advertising, but in a piston gun, power comes with recoil and recoil is not your friend when trying to learn to shoot a piston gun with consistent accuracy. Once you've learned how to shoot a piston gun, the recoil is much less important, but it can be a formidable hurdle when trying to learn.

Not saying the Game is a bad choice for your needs if you already know how to shoot a piston gun, but this is why I do not recommend a "magnum" class piston gun, spring or gas, as a gun to learn on. It can be very frustrating. A friend of mine just recently made that mistake. She bought a Gamo Fusion 10x advertised at 1300 fps and was so angry and frustrated after trying to sight in the scope and not being able to shoot consistently enough to do it, that she gave me the gun and told me to throw it in the trash. I still have it and have stored it in a shed until I decided what to do with it. I certainly have no use for it.

Another consideration with a piston gun is the trigger. From experience teaching beginners how to shoot a piston gun, a huge plus in learning to shoot a piston gun is a great trigger. This where Gamo and other such brands come up way short to the out of the box trigger on a Weihrauch, top of the line Diana or FWB or Air Arms springers. The trigger, alone, is well worth the extra cost on a Weihruach.

[Mr. Neutron]

Maybe I need to go back to work.........No, I don't think so.

What the He!! kinda statement is that, Mark???? You're scarin' me, man......

You gotta have time to shoot, ya know??

[markiver54]

Maybe I need to go back to work.........No, I don't think so.

What the He!! kinda statement is that, Mark???? You're scarin' me, man......

You gotta have time to shoot, ya know??

Aint gonna happen Jimmie!

[Mr. Neutron]

Whew!!!! That was a close one!!!

Well, since I have nothing else to add to the conversation, I guess my work here is done, hee hee....

Added in EDIT:

Mark, I do sincerely hope that you can find a rifle that checks all the boxes for ya. I went through a similar search for an inexpensive (I'm a cheap bastard, to my own detriment at times..... ) BB lever rifle. The first one that I bought has essentially become rustic decor, and then found the one that I shoot on the second try (the Umarex Legends Cowboy). I hope you can skip the kinda mistake I made on my first try........

[markiver54]

Well...I decided to bite the bullet, ( pellet in this case ). Just ordered the Weirauch HW 95L from Airguns of Arizona. Supposed to ship by Tuesday.
I appreciate all the suggestions I've received from all who helped. My budget criteria was about 1/2 of what I spent, but, so it goes.

[BigAl52]

Congrats Mark. Hope to see some range reports. What pellets did you get to start with?

[markiver54]

Congrats Mark. Hope to see some range reports. What pellets did you get to start with?

Actually, I was just getting ready to buy some, either online or go to Wally World. Any recommendations? Light, medium or heavy...brand?

[BigAl52]

JSB Exact try the 14 and the 15. Also H&N Field Target Trophy. Mine also liked the RWS pellets. I have some Norma pellets at home I bought but I havent shot them yet. Each gun has its own like for pellets. Buy small amounts of several and see what it likes

[North Country Gal]

Congrats, Mark. All you'll be able to get at Wally is Crosman and though the Crosmans will sometimes shoot well, the QC from one tin to the next can be pretty bad and accuracy can be all over the place. Take Al's advice and stay with JSB, H&N or RWS. Awfully hard to beat the H&N FTT for a do it all pellet.

[markiver54]

Thank you both very much. It saves me a good amount of money, knowing what to start with. Gosh...there are sooo many to choose from.

[daytime dave]

Mark, you have made a very fine choice. I'm sure you will be pleased with your purchase.
Don't be surprised at how it likes the better brands of pellets. As NCG has stated, the Crosman's you get at Walmart are VERY hit or miss.
If you go with Crosman pellets, get the ones that come in the cardboard box. When you find pellets your gun likes, stay with them.

I'm hoping to see a range report soon.

[markiver54]

Thank you Dave.
I did revisit the links that you sent me and was very tempted by the pump-up you suggested because it is very much like my old Sheridan pump that I've been shooting for about 40 years now. ( Ouch!..I'm old ). As far as pellets go, I've got a few in the Amazon cart to choose from. I think I'll go that route as opposed to Wally World. A nice rifle deserves a quality diet. I will keep in mind what you say about the Crossman pellets.