Hey Sir H

[BigAl52]

Gene
Did you consider the Umarex Origin at all when looking at PCP rifles?

[Sir Henry]

Gene
Did you consider the Umarex Origin at all when looking at PCP rifles?

Yes I did. I decided to go with all CO2 air guns for the next year. I currently have five either received, shipped or on order. If I went directly to PCP I might not want to go CO2 after.

[BigAl52]

Been looking at both. After a little more research I decide that the Benjamin Fortitude would be a better choice.

[North Country Gal]

Based on my experience, it would depend on what you used for an air source in PCP as to whether or not you'd be tempted to stop with CO2 afterwards and, even then, no matter what you use for fills, CO2 still has some nice convenience advantages. We now use a compressor to fill our PCP guns, but we still shoot our CO2 guns. Sure is nice to drop an inexpensive CO2 cartridge in your gun and go shoot. Then, too, CO2 has the market on reproduction air guns cornered.

As for the PCP market, that's where all the research and development is in the air gun world. The Avenger, Fortitude and similar affordable PCP rifles are hugely popular. Over on my air gun forum, that's the level of PCP that gets all the discussion. Very, very little discussion on the high end stuff like my Daystate. As I've mentioned before, even our budget class Discovery PCP can compete with our most expensive spring piston rifles. Love our Daystate PCPs, but those are the equivalent of a very expensive, high end gun in the rimfire world. You're paying a premium for the beautiful walnut and metal finishing. You don't have to spend anywhere near that much for a PCP that will shoot like most rimfire rifles.

[BigAl52]

Thanks for that comment NCG. They dont have any right now A of AZ but I may put my name on there want list. I know for sure I dont want to spend what it takes to have a Daystate.

[daytime dave]

NCG, what airgun forum do you participate on? I go to GTA when I get the spare moment here and there. I have had little time lately, but find that place to be worth it when I can visit.

[BigAl52]

Ya we've noticed Dave. You rarely come drink with us anymore

[North Country Gal]

Dave, yeah, I'm a GTA junkie. Post over there a lot, especially under the German air gun gate, what with all our HW, FWB and RWS springers. NCG over there, same as here.

[daytime dave]

Thank you. It's the only one I go to if I go to any air gun forum.


Al, thanks for the laugh.

[BigAl52]

I just joined over there at GTA yesterday so maybe I will see you both there same user name for me.

[Sir Henry]

Dave, yeah, I'm a GTA junkie. Post over there a lot, especially under the German air gun gate, what with all our HW, FWB and RWS springers. NCG over there, same as here.

I actually know what you are talking about. If nothing else at least the abbreviations. Four years ago it would have been random letters.

In another post you mentioned the CO2 power has the replica market cornered. I didn’t know that but I have looked at a lot of cheap $40 replicas of classic Lugers and even the mass produced 9130 in CO2.

With the same cartridge and $2 to $3 hundred I can also buy and shoot a medium priced rifle or pistol that can far outshoot me or at least bring me to my best. The QB78 reminds me of my CZ’s in it’s accuracy. The trigger on the inexpensive Peacemaker is one of the finest although the SA pull is rough at best.

And I can do it in my own backyard on five minutes notice. That is the most important thing now is that I can get some daily trigger time in without it taking over my life. I’m in the middle of a kitchen remodel. So it’s CO2 or no shoot.

[fortyshooter]

I used to be there quite a bit.

[North Country Gal]

GTA, not surprisingly, has grown by leaps and bounds just this last year, but always room for more.

Oh, I get that about being able to shoot at home and being able to squeeze in shooting time with a schedule full of other things you're doing. Very big deal for us, too. The wind finally calmed down, today, so I'll be trying to sight in the new scope on the Daystate, on top of a lot of other things we need to do, here.

By the time we rounded our powder guns and ammo and accessories, loaded it all in the car and drove to our local range and back, we almost always would eat up half a day, minimum and we still had to unload it all, clean guns and so on when we got home. Let's not even talk about ammo costs, now. And, of course, we'd never know how crowded the range would be until we pulled into the parking lot or who we'd have shooting next to us. We're in no hurry to renew our membership now that we are shooting at home, so much.