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For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:21 pm
by Mistered
Take a look at this 30-30 round. See anything different?
Ok - it's loaded with a 150 grain Spire Point bullet.
I have been cleaning up my loading desk & re-arranging it and stumbled on a bunch of these I have no other need for so I loaded them up for my 30-30s.
Actually I have done this before and its kind of a fun departure for the 30-30 as the SP bullets will give a little more velocity, shoot a little flatter and give the 30-30 a little more effective range and will demonstrate how much accuracy your rifle is capable of. Some dedicated 30-30 hunters do this regularly knowing the advantage of a spire point bullet for hunting.
The DOWN side is it turns your rifle into a single shot as the extra length of the SP bullet will not feed through the tube of a Winchester - I don't know about a Henry but I suspect they most likely will not either. On the same 'note' loading single shot is not a so much of an issue if just target shooting, or even varmint hunting as well. Heck look how many OWN a single shot rifle. Just because it's a 'repeater' doesn't mean it needs to be!
Anyway if you 30-30 reloaders want a change of pace give it a try sometime!
For a single shot 30-30 this should be standard practice.
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Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:26 pm
by RanchRoper
Would work fine in that Pedersoli Sharps Little Betsy 30-30 I has holding at the gun show last week....
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:30 pm
by Mistered
Would work fine in that Pedersoli Sharps Little Betsy 30-30 I has holding at the gun show last week....
Oh man - it would turn that into a tackdriver!
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:53 pm
by RanchRoper
That is a torpedo for sure.
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:10 pm
by JEBar
Mistered wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:21 pm
a fun departure for the 30-30 as the SP bullets will give a little more velocity, shoot a little flatter and give the 30-30 a little more effective range and will demonstrate how much accuracy your rifle is capable of.
being able to load bullets like that is the reason I'd love to see Henry come out with a 30-30 Long Ranger ..... over the years I've loaded some ballistic tips in 30-30 cases and fired them in our Model 94 and couldn't agree more that they really make a positive difference ...
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:54 pm
by Vaquero
Benefits of reloading.
Shot placement and a second shot is not necessary.
RP
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:57 pm
by Mistered
over the years I've loaded some ballistic tips in 30-30
Yea heck I might stop into the 'Shooter's Pro Shop' soon and see if they have any 'blem' ballistic tip .30 cal bullets !
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:27 pm
by JEBar
Mistered wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:57 pm
Yea heck I might stop into the 'Shooter's Pro Shop' soon and see if they have any 'blem' ballistic tip .30 cal bullets !
right now they list having 125, 150, 165 & 168 gr'ers in stock ====>
http://www.shootersproshop.com/nosler-p ... 20Tip.html
I loaded 150's because it was easy to find load data
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:55 pm
by Mistered
Oh man - I might have to try some of the 125s - the 125 grain bullet really makes the 30-30 sing!
Many do not understand modern powders & bullets make the 30-30 a whole new 'animal' - and while still not a major 'player' - it is still a force to be reckoned with in a lever action rifle.
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:16 am
by 220
Never bothered I just load the FTX and get the best of both worlds, all the advantages of a spire point and a full tube magazine.
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:55 am
by ESquared
What powder recipe did you use for this, Ed?
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:04 am
by BigAl52
Not sure what Ed is using Evan. But IMR 4895 or H4895 along with IMR 3031 and H335 are good powders in 30-30.
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:05 am
by Ojaileveraction
A Hornady Lock N Load Overall Length Gauge along with the appropriate Hornady Lock N Load Modified Case are a great help in determining overall lengths.
Candeling bullets is a learning curve in itself.
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:14 am
by BigAl52
Ojail
Is the 336 xlr you have a 30-30?
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:55 am
by Ojaileveraction
Yes, 30-30, 12 twist, Ballard rifling.
BigAl52 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:14 am
Ojail
Is the 336 xlr you have a 30-30?
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:59 am
by Vaquero
I've shot the 125 gr ballistic tips out of the MX before with good results.
Never tried to see how far, but at 75 yes. they sure grouped.
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RP
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:06 pm
by BigAl52
Ojaileveraction wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:55 am
Yes, 30-30, 12 twist, Ballard rifling.
BigAl52 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:14 am
Ojail
Is the 336 xlr you have a 30-30?
Local pawn shop has one in the stainless version. Its a JM gun. I looked at it online with some interest but I have located a CCH Henry that I really like alot.
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:07 pm
by Mistered
What powder recipe did you use for this, Ed?
Ramshot TAC right at 30 grains.
Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:25 pm
by John M
I tried trimming and loading 150 gr spire points for my 788.
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But found the 160 gr Hornady shot better.
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Re: For you 30-30 Owners/Reloaders
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:57 pm
by Mags
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Looks very similar to factory Federal Fusion .30-30
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal ... -2282.aspx
Mistered wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:21 pm
Take a look at this 30-30 round. See anything different?
Ok - it's loaded with a 150 grain Spire Point bullet.
I have been cleaning up my loading desk & re-arranging it and stumbled on a bunch of these I have no other need for so I loaded them up for my 30-30s.
Actually I have done this before and its kind of a fun departure for the 30-30 as the SP bullets will give a little more velocity, shoot a little flatter and give the 30-30 a little more effective range and will demonstrate how much accuracy your rifle is capable of. Some dedicated 30-30 hunters do this regularly knowing the advantage of a spire point bullet for hunting.
The DOWN side is it turns your rifle into a single shot as the extra length of the SP bullet will not feed through the tube of a Winchester - I don't know about a Henry but I suspect they most likely will not either. On the same 'note' loading single shot is not a so much of an issue if just target shooting, or even varmint hunting as well. Heck look how many OWN a single shot rifle. Just because it's a 'repeater' doesn't mean it needs to be!
Anyway if you 30-30 reloaders want a change of pace give it a try sometime!
For a single shot 30-30 this should be standard practice.
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