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Don't just read the numbers!

Post by dmanwarren » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:02 pm

Hey all, I'm going to tell a little story on myself in hopes anyone else out there that is just getting started in realoading doesn't make the same mistake that I did. Up until 2 weeks ago I knew nothing of all the various powders that are available out there, the only reloading I've done was shotshells 35 years ago and at that time I was young and my father did the component shopping. I decided to reload the .41 mag and started researching load data and come up with my first starting loads. Now that I had that I needed to go buy powder and primers, already had bullets purchased online. I knew getting certain powders could be a crap shoot so I wrote down 4 different powders that would work for what I wanted to do. In my haste I wrote down #7 as one of the powders that would work. Well I picked up some #7 not knowing there was a Alliant reloader 7 and a Accurate Arms #7. You guessed it I got the wrong one.
Eager to get started I loaded up 10 and had to wait a couple days to test them because of high winds. When I was able to shoot I gripped my pistol tight not knowing what to expect compared to a factory load and squeezed the trigger. The pistol go pew instead of pow! I have never had a squib before but I knew something was wrong sat there for a couple minutes trying to figure out what it was. I'm a pretty cautious person and went down range to see where it hit. No hole within two foot of the bulleye! Ok go back and inspect pistol and sure enough can't see through barrel. I go back home and research Reloader 7 and nothing, nadda on use in pistol cartridges. Then it dawns on me what I did. Lucky for me it produced an under powered round that couldn't make it out the barrel instead of blowing up on me.
Two things, always always right down all information and why would two different powder company's use the same number for two completely different powders. On the bright side I got to test out my bullet puller. You just can't be careful enough with this reloading stuff that is for sure! Thanks for looking, Dave

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Re: Don't just read the numbers!

Post by Squatch » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:07 pm

Great reminder!
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Re: Don't just read the numbers!

Post by tractortad » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:13 pm

I'm thinking about getting into reloading in the near future - great story and lesson learned - thanks for putting it out there...
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Re: Don't just read the numbers!

Post by CT_Shooter » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:30 pm

Thanks for sharing this story.

The one squib I've had was from a cartridge to which I failed to add any powder at all. When I pulled the trigger, nothing happened. I thought it was a failed primer, so I waited a bit, then tried to eject it, but the SPM primer pushed it out of the case so that the next round wouldn't chamber. I was lucky. Ever since, I carefully inspect each case for powder before topping it with a bullet.
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Re: Don't just read the numbers!

Post by JEBar » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:39 pm

CT_Shooter wrote:The one squib I've had was from a cartridge to which I failed to add any powder at all.
been there, done that .... over time I've gotten pretty paranoid about it so when I pull the trigger and for any reason something doesn't seem right, I won't fire another round until I've looked down the barrel .... sometimes it pays to be paranoid .. :D

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Re: Don't just read the numbers!

Post by dmanwarren » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:48 pm

Pretty embarrassing but thought it was worth posting in hopes someone else doesn't make the same mistake.

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Re: Don't just read the numbers!

Post by JEBar » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:54 pm

dmanwarren wrote:Pretty embarrassing but thought it was worth posting in hopes someone else doesn't make the same mistake.
my Dad was a Navy carrier pilot during WWII .... he used to tell me that any landing you could walk away from was a good landing .... I believe that any mistake with a firearm that does no damage or harms no one is actually a learning opportunity and that is a good thing

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Re: Don't just read the numbers!

Post by clovishound » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:22 pm

dmanwarren wrote:Pretty embarrassing but thought it was worth posting in hopes someone else doesn't make the same mistake.
Glad your mistake was a small one, and that you caught it before trying to put another one down the pipe. I carry a dowel with me to the range for just this reason. I've had a squib. Caught it before shooting another.

I've even got Clovispup into the mindset. She called me over this week to check the Mark. One round just didn't sound right to her. OK, yes it was a factory .22lr. Even the factory stuff can have issues. Everything was good, but I was glad she takes it seriously and is paying attention. She shoots my reloads in the Henry and the model 10. Oh, and soon to be in the new 1911!
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Re: Don't just read the numbers!

Post by RanchRoper » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:02 pm

Good info, I am looking into reloading as well. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Don't just read the numbers!

Post by DWD445 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:18 pm

Pretty good "wake up call" there. Coulda been ugly !!
It's crazy how many different powders there are out there :?
NEVER can be too careful, glad you learned the easy way :)
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