Spring has sprung. Get out and shoot your Henry
Primers
-
- Cowhand
- Posts: 186
- Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:52 pm
Primers
The elusive part we all need desperately to reload. There is no getting around it, they are either not here or very expensive. That being said here is my question to all of you pro's.
Small Pistol primers. I've received emails showing Aguila Small Pistol 1 1?2 in stock and another shows Fiocci Small Pistol Primers.
Can either of these replace CCI 500's? Honestly the Aguila is the same as over priced CCI so why bother but the Flocci are a touch cheaper and in stock.
Small Pistol primers. I've received emails showing Aguila Small Pistol 1 1?2 in stock and another shows Fiocci Small Pistol Primers.
Can either of these replace CCI 500's? Honestly the Aguila is the same as over priced CCI so why bother but the Flocci are a touch cheaper and in stock.
1 x
Re: Primers
'Not here' in my general area means none of the 'standard' primers are around and hence being forced to buy the 'very expensive' magnum, match and or benchrest versions (if one can even find those, which I have had some luck).
Right now standard CCI are advertised at about $5 per 100. Magnums run 10% more. Match and Benchrest run double.
Federal start at $5.20 per 100. Federal GoldMetal add $2.00. Remington similar.
I have no experience with Aquila primers, but if that is all I could get, given the way things are now I would buy them,
0 x
UPDATES: OR passes 114, "one of strictest gun control measures in U.S." https://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic. ... 34#p213234
- Vaquero
- Ranch Boss
- Posts: 10343
- Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:56 am
- Location: Somewhere between Memphis & Nashville
Re: Primers
I'd like to see some $52.50 per k primers.
Last I bought were $89.99 per k, plus tax.
RP
Last I bought were $89.99 per k, plus tax.
RP
3 x
Monte Walsh "You have No idea how little I care".
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012
-
- Cowhand
- Posts: 186
- Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:52 pm
Re: Primers
Me too! I paid the same for CCI 500 and even more for large rifle. As usual I am very late to the party. Wish I’d have started reloading years ago because I am the guy that would have squirreled away my “nuts”.
Ammo is widely available and coming down in price so hopefully these little devils will be also.
The Fiochi are $89 for 1,500. It’s a touch cheaper but I don’t know enough to feel comfortable not using exactly what I read in my manual.
0 x
Re: Primers
Most of my reloading in the past couple of years has been for Lever Silhouette in 30-30, 357 and 45 Colt. The availability of primers has caused me to use a mixed bag of them. Most of what I load are light to medium power loads with only one that is close to a max load in 30-30. I shoot with peep sights so I figure the best I can do with my old eyes is to hold plus or minus a quarter inch at 50 yds. The only difference in accuracy I have found is with very light loads of 6.5 grains of Green Dot with 135 grn Mo. Bullet out of my 30-30. I seem to get slightly better groups using magnum primers.
Shooters that load for extreme accuracy may disagree with me but I have found the difference in manufacturer, magnum or regular primers have not made a practical difference for my loads.
Shooters that load for extreme accuracy may disagree with me but I have found the difference in manufacturer, magnum or regular primers have not made a practical difference for my loads.
4 x
- Sir Henry
- Administrator / Owner
- Posts: 12126
- Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:58 pm
- Location: Price County Wisconsin
Re: Primers
It’s been close to 20 years since I reloaded on a regular basis and all I ever loaded was 9MM, 5.56 and 7.62 NATO and I did it in bulk using CCI primers. There were a few other calibers that I reloaded occasionally but it was military loads that was my biggest interest.
I sold all my left over primers and powder right before I left Seattle. Most of it was at least ten years old.
Last time I was at the lgs I saw they had full shelves of powder, primers and ammo. I’m not seeing a shortage here. You might have to sell a kidney to afford it but it’s here. I didn’t check prices.
I sold all my left over primers and powder right before I left Seattle. Most of it was at least ten years old.
Last time I was at the lgs I saw they had full shelves of powder, primers and ammo. I’m not seeing a shortage here. You might have to sell a kidney to afford it but it’s here. I didn’t check prices.
1 x
Hi, my name is Gene and I'm a Henryholic from Wisconsin.
Range Reporter: Henry Repeater
Range Reporter: Henry Repeater
- Rifletom
- Deputy Marshal
- Posts: 3904
- Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:26 pm
- Location: California Territory
Re: Primers
I haven't noticed any difference in using different primers in load work up either. I seem to be fine with CCI and Win primers I have, Man, I don't even remember the last time I bought primers at a lgs. Been awhile.leverjc wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:23 amMost of my reloading in the past couple of years has been for Lever Silhouette in 30-30, 357 and 45 Colt. The availability of primers has caused me to use a mixed bag of them. Most of what I load are light to medium power loads with only one that is close to a max load in 30-30. I shoot with peep sights so I figure the best I can do with my old eyes is to hold plus or minus a quarter inch at 50 yds. The only difference in accuracy I have found is with very light loads of 6.5 grains of Green Dot with 135 grn Mo. Bullet out of my 30-30. I seem to get slightly better groups using magnum primers.
Shooters that load for extreme accuracy may disagree with me but I have found the difference in manufacturer, magnum or regular primers have not made a practical difference for my loads.
1 x
Re: Primers
I've used a variety of primers and never noticed a difference, perhaps long rage competition shooting it may but for general purpose hunting/plinking ammo use whatever you can find
2 x
30-30, Helping bad fisherman eat since 1895
Re: Primers
I haven't noticed any difference in using different primers either.
I have yet to test out using SR in place of SP. Depending on what web info one reads, some say they work fine others say not.
I have yet to test out using SR in place of SP. Depending on what web info one reads, some say they work fine others say not.
0 x
UPDATES: OR passes 114, "one of strictest gun control measures in U.S." https://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic. ... 34#p213234
- Mr. Neutron
- Cowhand
- Posts: 350
- Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:34 pm
- Location: Near Boring, Oregon
Re: Primers
In my Nosler reloading book I bought late last century ('80s or '90s, I think...... ), a writer named Layne Simpson wrote a chapter about reloading in that manual.
Short version was that a U.S. military ballistician tested a lot of the 4 different components of ammo, and came to the conclusion that the bullet was the single most important part of a loading recipe. If powder charges are reasonably consistent, case prep and cases are consistent, this fella found that the bullet had the most influence on accuracy. The primer was on the bottom of that 4 item list, if I recall correctly.
I'm not any sorta "reloading guru", but have found no reason to believe otherwise in my reloading adventures.......
Short version was that a U.S. military ballistician tested a lot of the 4 different components of ammo, and came to the conclusion that the bullet was the single most important part of a loading recipe. If powder charges are reasonably consistent, case prep and cases are consistent, this fella found that the bullet had the most influence on accuracy. The primer was on the bottom of that 4 item list, if I recall correctly.
I'm not any sorta "reloading guru", but have found no reason to believe otherwise in my reloading adventures.......
3 x
Jimmie
An Okie living in Oregon
H009G
H004
H009BG
"Never miss a good chance to shut up." Will Rogers
"It's better to eat yer fruit before ya shoot it." youtuber WHO_TEE_WHO
An Okie living in Oregon
H009G
H004
H009BG
"Never miss a good chance to shut up." Will Rogers
"It's better to eat yer fruit before ya shoot it." youtuber WHO_TEE_WHO