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Brass is brass, right?
- Kissmybrass
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Brass is brass, right?
Thinking about reloading .357 and .38 rounds since this is so fun and cost-effective -
First question is I bought fairly cheap reloads from Defender Ammunition and they did ok and I saved the brass.
So now I have 100 cases from a dozen or so different companies. Never heard of half of them.
Are there any quality differences between them? I have some popular ones but the rest who knows.
.357 (not sure how many times they were used)
These I know:
Federal
Starline
Winchester
Sig
Blazer
These no idea:
A USA
G.F.L.
PPU
R•P
Aguila
X-TREME
HRTRS
CBC
.38 (new, used once)
All my .38's are factory so I have 50 of this and 50 of that and they are new. But if I'm reloading .357 should I also do .38? My faux Colt and .357 brassie shoot these OK as well.
First question is I bought fairly cheap reloads from Defender Ammunition and they did ok and I saved the brass.
So now I have 100 cases from a dozen or so different companies. Never heard of half of them.
Are there any quality differences between them? I have some popular ones but the rest who knows.
.357 (not sure how many times they were used)
These I know:
Federal
Starline
Winchester
Sig
Blazer
These no idea:
A USA
G.F.L.
PPU
R•P
Aguila
X-TREME
HRTRS
CBC
.38 (new, used once)
All my .38's are factory so I have 50 of this and 50 of that and they are new. But if I'm reloading .357 should I also do .38? My faux Colt and .357 brassie shoot these OK as well.
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Re: Brass is brass, right?
There are better brands of brass, Starline is generally considered the best, and I certainly like it most. You can mix headstamps for plinking ammo, but you will never get even acceptable groups that way, you must separate and load them by headstamp. There are variations in material, dimensions (case volume, rim thickness) and other specs that make your loads vary too much. If you only have a few of each oddball stamp, consider selling them on a local gun trading site, if there is one, or sell them at a scrap metal recycling center. Keep the more mainstream ones, and try to buy factory ammo from those brands. Refer to this page for some brand help.
https://www.cartridge-corner.com/uscenter.htm
In this time of component drought, do the best you can with what you have or can locate to buy. Whether or not you reload your .38 Spl brass is up to you. I hope you understand that the .38 ammo will work fine in the .357 Mag guns, but not vice versa. The same .357 die set is used for both calibers, you just set the .357 dies to a different height for the shorter .38 case. You could shorten your .357 brass to the .38 length, and use those in both gun types, but it requires a special case trimmer tool.
John Davies
Spokane WA
https://www.cartridge-corner.com/uscenter.htm
In this time of component drought, do the best you can with what you have or can locate to buy. Whether or not you reload your .38 Spl brass is up to you. I hope you understand that the .38 ammo will work fine in the .357 Mag guns, but not vice versa. The same .357 die set is used for both calibers, you just set the .357 dies to a different height for the shorter .38 case. You could shorten your .357 brass to the .38 length, and use those in both gun types, but it requires a special case trimmer tool.
John Davies
Spokane WA
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- Rifletom
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Re: Brass is brass, right?
PPU is Serbian. Seems to work fine.
R-P is Remington. Good.
CBCis Mgtech, Brazilian. Good.
Others, ?
R-P is Remington. Good.
CBCis Mgtech, Brazilian. Good.
Others, ?
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- Kissmybrass
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Re: Brass is brass, right?
Thinks I'll use the Federal and Starline and Wins and get a bag of Starline .357 and weed out the rest. Did not know there were accuracy issues with different shells. Thought it was all about the bullet - interesting
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Sig 320 XCompact
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Rem 870 Tac
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Re: Brass is brass, right?
Keep the R-P. In my .45 auto, I load whatever brass I have on hand. Never made a difference. In .357, pretty much the same, tho now I stick with Starline and R-P. In 45 Colt, Have only used Starline. No factory rounds thru those[3]. You should be good with your choices.Kissmybrass wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:40 pmThinks I'll use the Federal and Starline and Wins and get a bag of Starline .357 and weed out the rest. Did not know there were accuracy issues with different shells. Thought it was all about the bullet - interesting
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Re: Brass is brass, right?
Average shooter won't notice a difference with the brass. I would use it all for 38 Special and mid .357 Mag loads for plinking work. Use the Starline for your hotter loads or self defense loads.
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Re: Brass is brass, right?
X-Treme has their own web site. I've used their plated bullets and brass. Both seem to work fine. https://www.xtremebullets.com/
GFL is Fiocchi. They make some ammo that's great for the price. "GFL" (Guilio-Fiocchi-Lecco). They have a plant in Ozark, Mo.
Aguilla is made in Mexico. I've not had much luck reloading Aguilla brass. I usually just toss it.
HRTRS is Herters but I don't think they make their own brass. I may be mistaken. They're a Cabella's brand. I've not seen any of it around here.
Jake
GFL is Fiocchi. They make some ammo that's great for the price. "GFL" (Guilio-Fiocchi-Lecco). They have a plant in Ozark, Mo.
Aguilla is made in Mexico. I've not had much luck reloading Aguilla brass. I usually just toss it.
HRTRS is Herters but I don't think they make their own brass. I may be mistaken. They're a Cabella's brand. I've not seen any of it around here.
Jake
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- Kissmybrass
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Re: Brass is brass, right?
I deprimed and cleaned the Starline, Win, Fiocci and Federal - that's about 40 rounds so the rest are going to the spent bucket.
Bag of 100 Starline is looking like 25 bucks so that'll be the go to if I can find em
I think Starline is going exclusively to my rifle and the rest can go to my Colt copy .357
So I think there are better rifle bullets and better revolver bullets? More research here
Y'all have been tons of help.
Bag of 100 Starline is looking like 25 bucks so that'll be the go to if I can find em
I think Starline is going exclusively to my rifle and the rest can go to my Colt copy .357
So I think there are better rifle bullets and better revolver bullets? More research here
Y'all have been tons of help.
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H010G 45-70
H006M Big Boy Classic .357
Sig 320 XCompact
S&W 686 Plus 5"
Rem 870 Tac
H006M Big Boy Classic .357
Sig 320 XCompact
S&W 686 Plus 5"
Rem 870 Tac
- Kissmybrass
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Re: Brass is brass, right?
For the rifle... FMJs for now, maybe some HPs
Might get Missouri Bullet Co. or grizzly lead for the revolver.
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H010G 45-70
H006M Big Boy Classic .357
Sig 320 XCompact
S&W 686 Plus 5"
Rem 870 Tac
H006M Big Boy Classic .357
Sig 320 XCompact
S&W 686 Plus 5"
Rem 870 Tac