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Post by Kissmybrass » Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:07 pm

Shells are cleaned, prepped, primed and sized.
300 g bullets shipped
Found IMR 3895 today.
Lyman scale is calibrated.
Now I need to clear my head.
Here's the best two sources.
Would you concur? I'd like a few head nods before I do my first ever reloads (tad nervous)
I think I'm going to follow direction from the IMR website.
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Re: It's on!

Post by Vaquero » Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:13 pm

Definitely gettin closer.👍
Sorry I don't load for the caliber so I can't give much input.
Glad your able to get all the supplies, especially in today's turmoil.
I enjoy loading as much as I do shootin, heck sometimes I think I enjoy the loading more. :o :D

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Re: It's on!

Post by BigAl52 » Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:17 pm

Never used any 4895 in 45-70. Id start at the low end of that load table.
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Re: It's on!

Post by Kissmybrass » Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:59 pm

I think I'm going to load 6 Grizzly and 6 Missouri 300g bullets with the lighter grain and test those out first.
Hopefully more powders come in over the next few weeks. I really want to get this down to a round I really like to shoot :-)
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Post by BigAl52 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:02 am

Are you wanting a plinking round or a hunting round
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Post by Kissmybrass » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:55 am

For now a smooth fairly accurate slow round.
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Re: It's on!

Post by Kissmybrass » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:57 am

For hunting (if I do it) I'll reload the Hornady FTX or just grab a box. They match up so nice with my rifle.
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Post by JEBar » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:19 am

the most helpful reloading manual I've found for 45-70 is "The Complete Reloading Manual for the .45-70 Gov't Spiral-its bound – January 1, 1993 " .... its available at Cabela's and Amazon ----> https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Reloadi ... B004JOGNQS .... it covers Trapdoor loads .... it list most all powders .... for a for a fun to fire round at 100 or so yards, I'd recommend you find one in the mid to low trapdoor

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Post by Kissmybrass » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:20 pm

Thanks everyone for all of the help!!!
Pressed ten and ten :-)
Triple and quadruple checked my weights and measurements and reweighed all of the completed rounds when they were done.
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Re: It's on!

Post by Rifletom » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:31 pm

Those look fine Kmb. Did you stay with the Hodgdon load data?

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Re: It's on!

Post by Kissmybrass » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:03 pm

Rifletom wrote:
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Those look fine Kmb. Did you stay with the Hodgdon load data?



Yes I did! I used the IMR trapdoor 300g data.
Did a ton (maybe too much) research and this was the best for starters.

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Re: It's on!

Post by BigAl52 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:02 pm

No such thing as to much research or caution when you load your own. Those look great. Did you crimp with the RCBS die or the Lee
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Re: It's on!

Post by JEBar » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:14 pm

looking forward to hearing your assessment after testing them

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Re: It's on!

Post by Kissmybrass » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:48 pm

BigAl52 wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:02 pm
No such thing as to much research or caution when you load your own. Those look great. Did you crimp with the RCBS die or the Lee
I used the RCBS, that was the only tricky part of this. I think on a couple of the first crimps I went a little deep but they they chambered fine. There wasn't a defining measurement like everything else.
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Re: It's on!

Post by BigAl52 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:23 pm

Dont be afraid to use the Lee die on the lead bullets also.
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Post by Kissmybrass » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:32 pm

Good to know, thought the Lee was for jacketed
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Re: It's on!

Post by Hatchdog » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:22 pm

I don’t believe there are specs for crimp but I may be wrong, just not in my experience anyway. If you have any factory ammo on hand you can do a visual comparison between them and your reloads. Biggest issue with over-crimp is an increase in pressure do to a late release of the bullet. From your pictures your crimp looks fine, especially since you are producing a light load. (More room for error doing that) Crimps are especially important in lever action rifles due to the in-line style of magazine. Too light of a crimp will cause the bullet to move forward or rearward in the case from recoil causing an over or under length condition.

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Re: It's on!

Post by Kissmybrass » Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:48 am

I've seen a lot of videos and instruction but they vary so much. Do I set the die all the way till it hits the shell holder? Do I put a cartridge in after the bullet was seated and screw it down till it stops, then add a quarter turn or half? For my first one I kept slowly turning it an eighth and pulling down. And repeat till it felt like it did something. It's grey area. It's kind of like you need to get a feel for it.
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Re: It's on!

Post by BigAl52 » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:49 am

I usually raise the ram and screw the die till it makes contact with the loaded round and then screw it in a 1/4 turn at a time. After that its most by feel and looks for me. You can tell by handle resistance after you have done it for a while.
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Re: It's on!

Post by Kissmybrass » Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:18 am

Yes I did. I used the Starting 47.5 grains of 4895. Around 1600 fps I believe. Gonna head to the range this afternoon or Tomorrow morning!
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