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Squatch
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Re: Recommendations Requested

Post by Squatch » Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:15 am

I haven't loaded any of it yet. However the Lyman cast book recommends 5744 for the 45/70 for several loads. A lot of folks on the web use it for straight wall stuff. Both 44 mag and 45/70. It's good behind both lead and jacketed. The accurate website show loads of up to 1,600 fps with a lead 405 gr FP. This is a lever action load not trapdoor(mid level). I would think that would put a hurtin' on most any dangerous game you would encounter.
http://www.accuratepowder.com/load-data/

As for the slow paper punching stuff give this site a read especially the link at the end of the 1st paragraph. I'm one of those that likes to know the why as well as the how. It's a good read. The data I've been loading from all year for both 44 and 45/70 is on that page.
http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm
Any load data discussed by me is for entertainment purposes only. I can not condone or be responsible for it's use by others.

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Re: Recommendations Requested

Post by JEBar » Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:19 am

Squatch wrote:I haven't loaded any of it yet. However the Lyman cast book recommends 5744 for the 45/70 for several loads. A lot of folks on the web use it for straight wall stuff. Both 44 mag and 45/70. It's good behind both lead and jacketed. The accurate website show loads of up to 1,600 fps with a lead 405 gr FP. This is a lever action load not trapdoor(mid level). I would think that would put a hurtin' on most any dangerous game you would encounter.
http://www.accuratepowder.com/load-data/

As for the slow paper punching stuff give this site a read especially the link at the end of the 1st paragraph. I'm one of those that likes to know the why as well as the how. It's a good read. The data I've been loading from all year for both 44 and 45/70 is on that page.
http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm
WOW .... I'm sure that is great info but it quickly put me on info overload .... historically what I've done is to go to a Nosler manual, select the bullet I wanted to use, put together 10 of so of what they list as their Max recommended load and 10 or so of what they list as their most accurate load .... we then go to a range and do the best we can to test both for grouping at whatever range we anticipate using them for hunting .... if there isn't much difference between the performance of the most powerful and most accurate, we go with the most powerful .... that has served us well for decades; however, we haven't hunted in several years and spend all of our time on a range punching paper .... if our impact point on a deer was off by an inch or two at 100 yards, we've never found that it mattered .... we have discussed approaching reloading for our shooting today and we have discussed going at it from the opposite direction .... specifically, going to whatever manual we select, looking up the minimum load and, if given, the most accurate load recommendations .... example: by minimum I mean like starting with the minimum 44 special load for a 44 Magnum and working up to a load that groups best at the range we want to punch paper .... at this point we are still in the talking about it stage .... all of our reloading equipment is still in boxes after having been moved back to our home area in NC from where our oldest son had been using it in St Louis for the last 5 years .... along with changing targets, we are also changing projectiles .... jacketed to lead .... one thing I do know is we will not experiment outside of posted parameters .... no exceeding he maximum or going below the minimum charges .... I'm just not that adventuresome

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