Site seems to be OK. Load issue should be resolved now.

What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Sit back and talk with friends. Same rules as before. Rule #1-Relax with friends on the front or back porch.
Rule #2-No Politics, religion or anything above a G level.
User avatar
GunnyGene
Drover
Posts: 3005
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:15 am
Location: Monroe County, MS
United States of America

What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by GunnyGene » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:10 pm

As always, the raw numbers from NICS are a little squishy, but the trend is clear.

Some interesting State by State numbers from the NICS data. Far more handguns than long guns are being sold. This is also broken out by permit re-checks, etc. Several matrices in the article, but only posting one. With close examination of the data we can infer that buyers are far more interested in self-defense over the past few years than hunting since very few people hunt with a handgun as compared to rifles/shotguns.

Excerpt:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/nics- ... eferences/

Image
Bellum Omnium Contra Omnes is rapidly becoming a reality (11/2023). Para Bellum.

User avatar
Mags
Administrator
Posts: 8803
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:40 pm
Location: Tualatin Valley Oregon
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Mags » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:27 pm

.
My buying went contrary to what the data says others did. Me, more long guns than hand guns.
UPDATES: OR passes 114, "one of strictest gun control measures in U.S." https://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic. ... 34#p213234

User avatar
Vaquero
Ranch Boss
Posts: 12151
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:56 am
Location: Somewhere between Memphis & Nashville
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Vaquero » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:15 pm

Mags, I am in that same boat.
Say in the past 5 years way more rifles and shotguns than handguns.
And I know of the handguns, a couple of those were blackpowder revolvers. :D
Which according to the BAFTE those aren't even considered as firearms. :roll:

RP
Monte Walsh "You have No idea how little I care". :lol:

Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament :shock:
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012

User avatar
JEBar
Town Marshal / Deputy Admin
Posts: 20438
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:58 pm
Location: central NC
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by JEBar » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:39 pm

I don't have much confidence in the figures for North Carolina .... 13,463 handguns .... 89,522 long guns :?: :?: :?:

User avatar
Cofisher
Drover
Posts: 2574
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:02 pm
Location: Colorado/Nebraska
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Cofisher » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:10 pm

I want a handgun to help me decide which long gun to go with it. The options are amazing.
Remember, it's not how many guns you have. It's how many bullets you have.

User avatar
Vaquero
Ranch Boss
Posts: 12151
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:56 am
Location: Somewhere between Memphis & Nashville
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Vaquero » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:22 pm

Cofisher wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:10 pm
I want a handgun to help me decide which long gun to go with it. The options are amazing.
Yep, I have rifle/pistol combo's in, 357 mag, 41 mag, 44 mag, & 45 colt. :D
And 22's in both. ;)

RP
Monte Walsh "You have No idea how little I care". :lol:

Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament :shock:
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012

User avatar
Cofisher
Drover
Posts: 2574
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:02 pm
Location: Colorado/Nebraska
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Cofisher » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:26 pm

I am leaning towards the 9mm with a ruger or keltek rifle
Remember, it's not how many guns you have. It's how many bullets you have.

User avatar
Vaquero
Ranch Boss
Posts: 12151
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:56 am
Location: Somewhere between Memphis & Nashville
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Vaquero » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:53 pm

Should be a fun and cheap pair to shoot.
Can't wait to see what ya get.

RP
Monte Walsh "You have No idea how little I care". :lol:

Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament :shock:
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012

User avatar
BigAl52
Forum Ambassador
Posts: 15048
Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:43 pm
Location: Evans,Colorado
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by BigAl52 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:00 pm

Cofisher wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:26 pm
I am leaning towards the 9mm with a ruger or keltek rifle
The Ruger PC carbine in 9mm is really fun to shoot and if you order ammo online its not that bad. I have one and really like it. As far as the rest of it I have bought mostly handguns lately.
Don't let the old man in


H001T .22LR
H001T .22LR MONUMENT VALLEY
H003T PUMP .22LR
BBS .41 MAG
SS .357
SIDE GATE 38-55

User avatar
Mags
Administrator
Posts: 8803
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:40 pm
Location: Tualatin Valley Oregon
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Mags » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:30 pm

.
My next most likely is a hand gun.
UPDATES: OR passes 114, "one of strictest gun control measures in U.S." https://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic. ... 34#p213234

User avatar
Joe.45
Wrangler
Posts: 74
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:39 pm
Location: South East Florida
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Joe.45 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:10 am

This is interesting. Just wait until Black Friday, this year will break all types of records. I’m hoping for huge sales on HENRY RIFLES!
Si vis pacem, para bellum!
H006M; H006MR; H001T; H004; another H001T

User avatar
dave77
Drover
Posts: 2320
Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:09 am
Location: Eastern Washington
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by dave77 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 am

My last purchase was an "other". Finally got a Mossberg Shockwave, probably not very practicable but thought they were kind of cool. I don't see myself buying anymore firearms, hardly shoot the ones I have enough...............................But hmm, I have always wanted a 1911 in .45cal.

Mistered

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Mistered » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:29 am

or keltek rifle
If you are referring to a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 study the rifle and choose wisely.
At a minimum stay away from the gen 1 version.
While good shooters and very accurate they are very cheaply built with a few known problems.
First is with the barrel - it is epoxied in with no other support. There is a 'fix' for this one can accomplish which is to drill and install a pin to secure it.
The parts on it are very lightly made to reduce weight and breakage is certain if one is not careful. Some of the screws are plastic and stripping is a possibility if one is not very careful removing and reinstalling them. Disassembly for cleaning is very difficult and actually not recommended by Kel-Tec. Also they are considered 'limited use' guns and at one time Kel-Tec even stated this and gave the S2K a 10K round lifespan

I know all this as I owned a Gen 1 at one time and sold it shortly after a one time disassembly.
Last edited by Mistered on Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:24 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Mags
Administrator
Posts: 8803
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:40 pm
Location: Tualatin Valley Oregon
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Mags » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:45 am

.
Ya, that's what I've been shopping for.
dave77 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 am
............But hmm, I have always wanted a 1911 in .45cal.
UPDATES: OR passes 114, "one of strictest gun control measures in U.S." https://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic. ... 34#p213234

Mistered

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Mistered » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:08 pm

Take a look at a Ruger PCC.
As a 'conventional' rifle It's obviously considerably different from the S2K but is very well built, easy to disassemble and is a 'break down' design.
The bolt handle is ambedextrious and the dual magazine design could be an advantage - especially if one has a Ruger or Glock semi-auto pistol. Even then if not Glock mags can found pretty easily and cheap.

User avatar
clovishound
Drover
Posts: 2525
Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:18 pm
Location: Summerville SC
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by clovishound » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:41 pm

Mags wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:45 am
.
Ya, that's what I've been shopping for.
dave77 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 am
............But hmm, I have always wanted a 1911 in .45cal.
Big 1911 fan here. Clovispup and I spend a lot of quality time at the range with the Springfield Range Officer.

Most folks I talk to that are thinking about buying a gun for the first time, are interested in handguns. Lots of folks that rent guns at the range are renting ARs.
There is, I think, humor here which does not translate well from English to sanity. - Sanya

User avatar
dave77
Drover
Posts: 2320
Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:09 am
Location: Eastern Washington
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by dave77 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:04 pm

clovishound wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:41 pm
Mags wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:45 am
.
Ya, that's what I've been shopping for.
dave77 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 am
............But hmm, I have always wanted a 1911 in .45cal.
Big 1911 fan here. Clovispup and I spend a lot of quality time at the range with the Springfield Range Officer.

Most folks I talk to that are thinking about buying a gun for the first time, are interested in handguns. Lots of folks that rent guns at the range are renting ARs.
I've never even had a chance to fire one other than an old beat up one that was missing it's rear sight. I have dry fired a few nice ones at local gun stores and really liked the trigger.

User avatar
Mags
Administrator
Posts: 8803
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:40 pm
Location: Tualatin Valley Oregon
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Mags » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:19 pm

.
I've been thinking about this one 'Rock Island M 1911 GI Standard Pistol'.
clovishound wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:41 pm
...
dave77 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:04 pm
...
UPDATES: OR passes 114, "one of strictest gun control measures in U.S." https://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic. ... 34#p213234

Mistered

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by Mistered » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:36 pm

I've been thinking about this one 'Rock Island M 1911 GI Standard Pistol'.
Lots of good things said about the RIA line of pistols - and I am planning on one eventually in 9mm but it will be the 'Rock' version with all the goodies including adjustable sights.

I've looked them over at my LGS and great fit, smooth with a good trigger. The finish is obviously where they cut corners but it is not bad for a basic parkerizing. I don't think a better gun can be had in it's price range and they are better than they SHOULD be for the price!

User avatar
GunnyGene
Drover
Posts: 3005
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:15 am
Location: Monroe County, MS
United States of America

Re: What people are buying - Handguns or long guns?

Post by GunnyGene » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:24 pm

BigAl52 wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:00 pm
Cofisher wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:26 pm
I am leaning towards the 9mm with a ruger or keltek rifle
The Ruger PC carbine in 9mm is really fun to shoot and if you order ammo online its not that bad. I have one and really like it. As far as the rest of it I have bought mostly handguns lately.
How about a lever action AR? :D

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... ion-ar-15/

Image
Bellum Omnium Contra Omnes is rapidly becoming a reality (11/2023). Para Bellum.

Post Reply