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I Don't know if any of you have ever heard of Claud Dallas and his interesting story but I have followed it for a long time - partly because it took place in the Pacific Northwest and largely in part because I IDENTIFY with his lifestyle and was spending a lot of time in the outdoors about this time myself...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DlOK2410xc

Interesting story for sure. Cowboy singer Ian Tyson wrote a song about him back in the 1980's.

2 sides to every story for sure.

Thanks for posting this Ed. I remember his situation well as I too identified well with and supported his lifestyle. The media put a selfish twist on the story at the time that I didn't agree with because of it. To this day, I don't agree with all of mans laws but I try to tolerate them.

Dallas on the right in the green wooly chaps. Working in Nevada before the incident. I have a few books with pics of him as a buckaroo.

Unfortunately Dallas's actions after the initial encounter left no questions about his guilt.

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Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:30 am

Unfortunately Dallas's actions after the initial encounter left no questions about his guilt.

Claude Dallas was a loner, who did not want to adhere to authority, "modern" game laws and was an admitted poacher. When finally confronted, he shot, then "execution style" killed both Pogue and Elms. Lets not forget that. He chose the wrong approach and he knew it. Throwing Elms body into the river, burying Pogue's body elsewhere and trying to make any evidence disappear. He was caught, tried and sentenced. He is no folk hero or legend. How anybody could look up to that guy, well..... And now he is out. How do you think Pogue's and Elm's families feel about that? No one I'd want to be associated with. Dallas got off way luckier than the other two. That's how I felt about that guy.

Agree. Whatever happened, he's a murderer. No argument.

The issue was never about his guilt. That was a given.

Hey All,

Im sure you mean Claude Dallas.

Even at the time I knew that in 1980 that you have no right to live as if it is 1880 in violation of laws and then thinking you are in the old west and acting that way shooting law enforcement officers. Whether or not Dallas thought he was born 100 years too late is utterly totally irrelevant. He fully deserved every one of the 22 years he spent in prison.

All that said I have heard many say they want the past back and to illustrate I'll use agriculture. I've had farmers say they liked the 60s and wouldn't mind having that back and I ask them so you ok without modern medicine few tv channels party line phones open station tractors and combines meaning no cab so no heat or air conditioning and low horse power so no monster tractors and narrow headers on combines like 12 maybe 15 feet an no semi trucks to pickup grain. An they say no way I want all modern convienence - how would I farm 6000 acres with that old equipment? What they want is the sense of community and family thriving small towns and I say you cannot have both so choose. They prefer today. Ultimately the issue is twofold - population growth and technology. Are both moving faster than human nature is comfortable with?

The question is I suspect is the same for those who think they were meant to be mountain men. Are they willing to leave all modern convenience behind to be mountain men since you cannot have both? I suspect not.

All that said I know a lot of the country Dallas was in as in 1978 I mapped soil types and vegetation types over BLM lands from north of Burns OR south to almost French Glen and the highway South out of Burns west to roughly Wagontire - beautiful high desert country. I also spent time on Steens MTN and the Alvord desert as well as farther southeast in the Owyhee country. That area South to Winnemucca is the loneliest in the lower 48 and it suited me then as well as it does today. If you haven't been there and like lonesome country like I do visit it sometime.

-Ed-

I love lonesome country....

I remember this incident in the news and in a hunting magazine back then. I feel very sorry for the families of those officers. This must be very difficult for them.

Never heard of him.

RP

Never heard of him.

There is a fairly good made for TV movie about him.
Although made in 1986 it does not have the typical '80's' movie 'action' and plays more like a docu-drama with a pretty good cast - and is unbiased and not judgmental.
Google 'Manhunt for Claude Dallas full movie' if interested and watch it. It is in two parts as a 'mini-series'