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USAF 4, Balloons 0

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:45 am
by GunnyGene
Apparently some of the recently downed 'balloons' aren't balloons.

We're calling them 'objects' for a reason. Interesting statement from the General. Propulsion system? Anti-gravity, anyone? :?

Gettin' pretty weird around here.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-heightene ... lake-huron
VenHerck refused to classify the recent shot-down objects as balloons.

"We’re calling them objects for a reason. Certainly, the event off the South Carolina coast for the Chinese spy balloon, that was clearly a balloon," he said. "These are objects. I am not able to categorize how they stay aloft. It could be a gaseous type of balloon inside a structure, or it could be some type of a propulsion system. But clearly they’re able to stay aloft."

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:19 pm
by markiver54
We all deserve to hear what they DO know. I'm sure there is a lot. I believe the last three are related/connected to the first, regardless of their composition. It's too coincidental for them not to be. Certainly, the technology is there to come to some conclusions by now.

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:55 pm
by Koyote
I imagine those Sidewinder missiles are more expensive than a bunch of plastic that is used in making those balloons.
I wonder about any other ideas for taking down some of the smaller balloons without having to blow them up?

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:02 pm
by GunnyGene
markiver54 wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:19 pm
Certainly, the technology is there to come to some conclusions by now.
Probably. But there may be some reluctance to making those conclusions public. Remember Roswell, 1947.

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:11 pm
by Mags
markiver54 wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:19 pm
We all deserve to hear what they DO know....
Not necessarily. A lot needs to remain classified. It is nice to know anything else than what has already been shared.

On another note, I've heard the number of kill decals they stick on air fighters now includes balloons.

Re: USAF 4, Balloons 0

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:52 pm
by cooperhawk
OK, I used to have a job where we worked it NORAD all day. Radar is tricky. We used to tune our Primary Radar down so as to reduce
clutter. If you did not then ground clutter covered your scope. For high altitude we watched only Secondary Radar which involve a transponder on the aircraft. We did not use Primary for high altitude. NORAD should have been painting these things, but they appear to be small and slow moving. Not something they would be looking for, but I'll bet they are now. :roll:

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:17 pm
by clovishound
There are some things that we all would like to know, but it is in the best interest of the country that they remain classified. I can live with that.

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:22 pm
by RanchRoper
Distraction away from Biden’s real troubles.

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:30 pm
by BigAl52
We might have the right to know but whos going to tell us the real truth. Certainly not the media and I dont believe anything that comes out of our leaders mouths.

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:34 pm
by GunnyGene
BigAl52 wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:30 pm
We might have the right to know but whos going to tell us the real truth. Certainly not the media and I dont believe anything that comes out of our leaders mouths.
Can't wait for a repeat of the Roswell balloon fiasco. Or a soft landing by one of the current "objects" on the WH lawn.

John Kirby says we don't need to worry about aliens. Hmmmm. ;)

https://www.foxnews.com/us/its-not-alie ... potted-u-s

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:07 pm
by RanchRoper
Trudeau says there’s a “pattern” and if there’s one thing he knows about it’s hot air.

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:12 pm
by Vaquero
RanchRoper wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:22 pm
Distraction away from Biden’s real troubles.
This^^^
Ding, Ding, and we have a Winner.

RP

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:46 pm
by Danwin22
Why waste a missile on a balloon. Use a bullet.

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:00 pm
by BigAl52
Why waste our ammo on a balloon. Why doesnt the king of hot air shoot the balloon down.



Oh I forgot he doesnt like guns

Re: USAF 4, Balloons 0

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:02 pm
by Vaquero
Danwin22 wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:46 pm
Why waste a missile on a balloon. Use a bullet.
That was my thought, why a half a million dollar rocket when a couple or machine gun rounds would do the same D@88 thing. :roll:

RP

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:54 pm
by RanchRoper
“Let’s see, nobody is scared of pandemic stuff anymore, what about a UFO invasion?”

Keep the population scared and looking to govt to help them. Oops I sound like one of THOSE people… :)

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:14 pm
by cooperhawk
BigAl52 wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:00 pm
Why waste our ammo on a balloon. Why doesnt the king of hot air shoot the balloon down.
Oh I forgot he doesnt like guns
And it would also deflate slowly and not damage the package as much.

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:20 pm
by markiver54
Be on the lookout RR, and save us some money if Ya see another one up there. Take it out! :D

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:31 pm
by RanchRoper
When you hit them they explode and hundreds of Chinese food flyers come down with today's special on them.... :)

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:34 pm
by GunnyGene
Oddly shaped for a balloon. Waiting on one of the next ones (and there will be more), to zip off from approaching F-22's at mach 20 or more. Or do some other obviously out of this world performance. I've been waiting for 75 years, so they better get a move on. I ain't gettin' younger. :twisted:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/politics ... index.html
The object downed over Lake Huron on Sunday, first detected over Montana the prior day, was different: an octagonal shape with strings hanging off of it and traveling at 20,000 feet over Michigan’s Upper Peninsula.