Page 1 of 1

Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:15 am
by Sir Henry
I’m at the KOA in Carlsbad, NM and a large pack of coyotes just passed through the campground. I’ve never seen a pack of a couple dozen. It was amazing as they did not come through all at once and they were spread out.

Some were howling and you could rear replies in the distance and there was yipping between those closer together.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:15 am
by JEBar
fascinating .... I don't recall ever seeing more than a couple moving together

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:53 am
by cooperhawk
Around here they pack up in the Winter and sometimes the packs get really large.
I shined a light into the woods one night and the neighbor and I saw at least twenty pairs
of eyes looking at us out of the darkness. Nasty animals.

If that is the KOA that will deliver food to your site, been there and liked it.
Also in the town there is a BBQ place that is pretty good.

We were down in the caverns and my wife was looking all around and I asked her what
she was looking for. She said Orcs. (Lord of the Rings). :shock:
Didn't find any.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:21 am
by Sir Henry
cooperhawk wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:53 am
Around here they pack up in the Winter and sometimes the packs get really large.
I shined a light into the woods one night and the neighbor and I saw at least twenty pairs
of eyes looking at us out of the darkness. Nasty animals.

If that is the KOA that will deliver food to your site, been there and liked it.
Also in the town there is a BBQ place that is pretty good.

We were down in the caverns and my wife was looking all around and I asked her what
she was looking for. She said Orcs. (Lord of the Rings). :shock:
Didn't find any.
I think this was more of several smaller packs coming through in a relative short time. I would say the 20 was spread out over ten acres. They were all moving in the same direction. They were communicating width each other.

I love coyotes. They are a very social animal and mate for life. Both are involved in raising the pups. Yes I know they are a predator and farmers don’t like them. In that case shoot them. I don’t have a problem with people that hate them as long as they don’t mind me loving them.

In the 70’s I hunted them for their fur. They could bring $100 each. In 1970 that $100 would buy 400 gallons of gas or 5,000 rounds of No 4 Buck.

Yes I’m at the same KOA. I ordered the barbecue chicken sandwich with potato salad and it was delivered to my site right at 6 pm which was the time I requested.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:29 am
by cooperhawk
Sir Henry wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:21 am
Yes I’m at the same KOA. I ordered the barbecue chicken sandwich with potato salad and it was delivered to my site right at 6 pm which was the time I requested.
We were there in March of 2019. I had that sandwich as well. We had traveled up from Ft. Stockton, Tx. and it was a trip from hell. Maybe they're done now but it was all construction and MUD! It was interesting to see all of the camps of oil field workers though.
We left there and headed for Los Cruses, NM.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:33 am
by cooperhawk
Sir Henry wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:21 am
I love coyotes. They are a very social animal and mate for life. Both are involved in raising the pups. Yes I know they are a predator and farmers don’t like them. In that case shoot them. I don’t have a problem with people that hate them as long as they don’t mind me loving them.

In the 70’s I hunted them for their fur. They could bring $100 each. In 1970 that $100 would buy 400 gallons of gas or 5,000 rounds of No 4 Buck.
The problem we have with them is they multiply so fast that they kill all the game birds, and then they come into farm yards after dogs and cats. A neighbor down at the end of the lake collects road kill and dumps it in his field behind his house as bait. One Winter he killed over 80.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:40 am
by Sir Henry
cooperhawk wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:29 am
Sir Henry wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:21 am
Yes I’m at the same KOA. I ordered the barbecue chicken sandwich with potato salad and it was delivered to my site right at 6 pm which was the time I requested.
We were there in March of 2019. I had that sandwich as well. We had traveled up from Ft. Stockton, Tx. and it was a trip from hell. Maybe they're done now but it was all construction and MUD! It was interesting to see all of the camps of oil field workers though.
We left there and headed for Los Cruses, NM.
I’ll be staying here three nights on the way back. I’ve seen the caverns three times already. I’m looking at the brochure and learned El Capitan in the Guadalupe mountains is an hour away. In the return trip I’m going to climb the 8751 foot peak. I climbed it two years ago and can still climb a thousand feet an hour

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:45 am
by cooperhawk
Sir Henry wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:40 am
I’ll be staying here three nights on the way back. I’ve seen the caverns three times already. I’m looking at the brochure and learned El Capitan in the Guadalupe mountains is an hour away. In the return trip I’m going to climb the 8751 foot peak. I climbed it two years ago and can still climb a thousand feet an hour
A thousand feet an hour, you're a better man than I my friend. :o
We drove into the Guadalupe mountains one morning when there was hoar frost on the trees. It was beautiful.
On Hwy 62 southwest of Carlsbad there is a nice visitor center for them. RV parking as well.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:21 am
by Sir Henry
cooperhawk wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:45 am
Sir Henry wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:40 am
I’ll be staying here three nights on the way back. I’ve seen the caverns three times already. I’m looking at the brochure and learned El Capitan in the Guadalupe mountains is an hour away. In the return trip I’m going to climb the 8751 foot peak. I climbed it two years ago and can still climb a thousand feet an hour
A thousand feet an hour, you're a better man than I my friend. :o
We drove into the Guadalupe mountains one morning when there was hoar frost on the trees. It was beautiful.
On Hwy 62 southwest of Carlsbad there is a nice visitor center for them. RV parking as well.
Yes a thousand feet an hour and I can do it hour after hour. I have climbed Mt Si three times in a row in one day. It’s about a 3,000 foot gain and I would time myself going up. On the way down I go slow because gravity is doing all the work and if you go fast you just injure yourself. Anyway when I got to the bottom I turned around and did it again and then again. The total was 9,000 feet gain in less than nine hours.

I was doing it for training. The last time I did it three times in a row was three years ago. I’m 72 now and can still out climb many 20 year olds.

Two years ago I came within 200 feet of the summit of Mt Stuart. To get to it you have to go over a pass and then down and up the mountain proper. Then on the way out you have to go over the pass again. The total elevation gain was 9,000 feet. When I was young I could do the entire climb in and out in one day.

People.called me a mountain goat and then shortened it to Mountain. So for about 20 years most people knew me as Mountain. I like shooting but mountaineering was my love.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:26 am
by Sir Henry
I spoke with a fellow camper and he said it was more like 40. He has camp here before and said they do it maybe once a month. I thought they might do it during a full moon. When they came through the sliver of a moon was barely over the horizon and it was dark except for the campground.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:57 am
by North Country Gal
Late summer and fall will see young of the year coyotes still running with the pack, so not unusual to see a lot of coyotes at one time. The youngsters also tend to be very vocal. This time of the year, we often hear them running through the neighborhood at night.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:59 am
by cooperhawk
That campground is out in the boonies a bit. We stayed only a couple of nights this last trip.
We have also stayed at the one in town but that is mostly permanent oil field workers. It was
OK though.
There is a restaurant in town with a funny name that I can't remember, old age, but its on a corner and
has great breakfasts and lunches.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:11 am
by Sir Henry
cooperhawk wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:59 am
That campground is out in the boonies a bit. We stayed only a couple of nights this last trip.
We have also stayed at the one in town but that is mostly permanent oil field workers. It was
OK though.
There is a restaurant in town with a funny name that I can't remember, old age, but its on a corner and
has great breakfasts and lunches.
18 miles from town or the nearest latte.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:45 am
by cooperhawk
I just remembered the name of that eating place, it's "The NO WHINER DINER".
Great food. :D

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www. ... hbCSWaJKDf

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:41 pm
by BrokenolMarine
We try to get along with wildlife, but the coyotes made Miss Ts bad boys list. She used to free range her chickens, keeps them healthy, and the coop run fresher. Then the yotes started laying in the tall grass and taking chickens in broad daylight, seven in a single day. Eighteen in a week. No more free ranging for now... Unless she is working at the coop.

The possums, coons, etc, can't get at them in the secure coop, though we have watched then try all through the night on the game cams. :lol: the cattle panels and rat wire sure frustrate them all.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:41 pm
by Sir Henry
BrokenolMarine wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:41 pm
We try to get along with wildlife, but the coyotes made Miss Ts bad boys list. She used to free range her chickens, keeps them healthy, and the coop run fresher. Then the yotes started laying in the tall grass and taking chickens in broad daylight, seven in a single day. Eighteen in a week. No more free ranging for now... Unless she is working at the coop.

The possums, coons, etc, can't get at them in the secure coop, though we have watched then try all through the night on the game cams. :lol: the cattle panels and rat wire sure frustrate them all.
If they are a problem eliminate them. I eliminate rats all the time and think it’s okay because they do damage.

On a related subject I jokingly say I’m against deer hunting but I’m not against YOU hunting so if you shoot a deer I want some steaks 🥩.

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:10 pm
by BrokenolMarine
I don't hunt, since I can't eat game meat. On the other hand, I have no problem with ethical hunters, and in fact am strongly in favor of it as it both controls the population and supports the shooting sports and the foundations that provide for the future of game animals and conservation in most states. :)

As you all likely know, I am a shooter and I have been known to use my skills for varmint or predator control on the farm. 8-)

Re: Large Pack Of Coyotes

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:34 pm
by Sir Henry
I just realized all the animals I’ve shot were fur bearing. No deer, no hog, no fowl. Well I have hunted fowl with no luck. I’m going to be hunting fowl when I get to TX. And if I move to Montana or elsewhere where deer hunting is more the norm I want to make one clean harvest of a deer.