Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

[fortyshooter]

Have been hearing on the news that GM and Ford planning building electric vehicles only by 2035...that's only 14 yrs. away!
Lot's of supporting industry will be going away too like all parts related to gasoline powered cars/trucks. I suspect nascar will be switching over before that to push the agenda along too....if they are still around.
I wonder if wise money would start buying up current new cars within next 5 yrs. and store them away for when some folks will be searching for a new but old gas powered vehicle?
Just like the Bit Coin when it came about 10-12 yrs. ago to be bought for pennies and now one is worth 50,000 bucks!

Todays 30 somethings like their brawny new trucks with high performance gas powered engines and when they are 45-50 will be missing that action of that 400 HP awesome sound of power!

Time will tell!

[BigAl52]

You and I wont be around to see the rate of increase Forty

[Rifletom]

And yet, they still have to plug 'em in to charge them. Amazing the way some think. Some people must think that electricity just bubbles out of the ground like water or something. Man!

[GunnyGene]

You and I wont be around to see the rate of increase Forty

Neither will I, most likely. I can already see the old guy smiling at me, and all I can do is smile back.

[GunnyGene]

And yet, they still have to plug 'em in to charge them. Amazing the way some think. Some people must think that electricity just bubbles out of the ground like water or something. Man!

Critical thinking is not included in recent educational curricula.

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

And yet, they still have to plug 'em in to charge them. Amazing the way some think. Some people must think that electricity just bubbles out of the ground like water or something. Man!

Right. Many say our electrical grid is in fragile shape as it is.

I say they're dreaming. This morning's news said less than 1% of the cars out there now are electric. In 14 years I would say that they will be lucky to have 10%.

[GunnyGene]

And yet, they still have to plug 'em in to charge them. Amazing the way some think. Some people must think that electricity just bubbles out of the ground like water or something. Man!

Right. Many say our electrical grid is in fragile shape as it is.

I say they're dreaming. This morning's news said less than 1% of the cars out there now are electric. In 14 years I would say that they will be lucky to have 10%.

Might be back to hay burners in 14 years, and then people would be complaining about manure.

[RanchRoper]

Another green pipe dream.

[fortyshooter]

Just watch out for Federal and State "Carbon Tax" added on to your vehicle registration and gas tax! Unless the auto manufactuers are getting gov't funding for it they wouldn't not be investing all the money in planning to convert the production.

[Grunt67]

So far, you can't carry a spare can of electricity for when you run out.
Somebody is daydreaming.

[Hatchdog]

So far, you can't carry a spare can of electricity for when you run out.
Somebody is daydreaming.

No, but you could carry a GAS powered generator and give your battery a re-charge....

Just kidding of of course, I can’t imagine a small portable generator would have the output to charge the large bank of batteries in these cars.



“Another Green Pipe Dream”....... I like it, very rhymeie

[Headhog]

My plan is to be alive and well in 2035. Just remember all plans subject to change without notice!

Paul

[fortyshooter]

I prefer gas operated vehicles until they get more battery life or miles per charge. No way can they get totally away from running things on fossil fuel.

[GunnyGene]

I prefer gas operated vehicles until they get more battery life or miles per charge. No way can they get totally away from running things on fossil fuel.

And be able to charge it up in 5 minutes at one of the millions of charging stations across the country - oh wait, those don't exist yet.

[Oldbrass]

The entire (clean energy) racket is a complete joke, Don't get me wrong it's out there but it's buried in the vaults of big oil. Tesla figured it out over 100 years ago and the day he died EVERY piece of his research was confiscated. The problem with green energy is there's no profit. The so-called environmentalists are just a cover story for the global elite. Go ahead and tell the world you discovered free clean energy and you'll suddenly have an accidental death like so many others

[220]

It is clear those pushing for a total replacement of ICE have no idea of the energy requirements needed or where it will come from.
Not sure how Australia compares to the rest of the world but if you take the time to look at the figures our energy usage for transportation is actually greater than our total electricity production from all sources.
At a time when they are shutting down coal fired power stations that still provide our base load electricity and the majority of our production we need to increase electricity production by over 100% to switch to electric vehicles.
It just wont happen

[GunnyGene]

It is clear those pushing for a total replacement of ICE have no idea of the energy requirements needed or where it will come from.
Not sure how Australia compares to the rest of the world but if you take the time to look at the figures our energy usage for transportation is actually greater than our total electricity production from all sources.
At a time when they are shutting down coal fired power stations that still provide our base load electricity and the majority of our production we need to increase electricity production by over 100% to switch to electric vehicles.
It just wont happen

Electric production and distribution is only part of it. There's also the issue of recycling/disposal of millions of tons of battery packs every year. But, hey, maybe somebody will invent a flux capacitor and a little bitty cold fusion power plant that will fit in a motor scooter.

[fortyshooter]

Waiting on the time machine thing so I can go back to the 60's !!! Remember when they tried the propane deal for cars and truck back in the 70's ? That didn't last long either. I just don't see total sun and wind power running cold cities in the middle of winter or during the high heat of summer!

[Centaur]

Electric airliners; that’s gonna be fun to watch, along with electric semi tractors, and for that matter, farm tractors.

[CT_Shooter]

If You Build It: Challenges Facing Electric Vehicle Infrastructure

How will such an enormous network of charging stations be built? More important, who will pay?

Regarding the latter, it’s not unusual to hear the argument that government must fund charging infrastructure in order to make it viable for users to purchase EVs. But that’s not the case, or so we’ve learned from the forward-thinking Kansas City Power and Light (KCP&L).

Yes, you heard correctly. Forward-thinking. Utility company. Kansas.

In 2015, KCP&L put down $20 million to install 1,000 charging stations throughout its service territory of more than 800,000 customers. This was despite the fact that, at the time, there were only about 1,600 plug-in electric vehicles in the entire state, a quarter of them in the immediate Kansas City area.

Less than two years later, the utility had not only met its goal; it had exceeded it.

Today, there are more than 1,000 KCP&L-branded charging stations up and running in places like grocery stores, apartment complexes, and malls. In classic “if you build it, they will come” style, availability of charging infrastructure rapidly spurred EV uptake. The area straddling the Kansas-Missouri border is now one of the fastest-growing EV markets in the nation.

With one of the biggest barriers to EV acceptance out of the way, consumers came rushing in. And it all took place without a government mandate or dinging an unwilling taxpayer.

It’s not that KCP&L didn’t consult the government or attempt to pass along some of the cost to the public. It’s just that when the utility asked the Kansas state legislature for a boost in the form of a two- to three-cent monthly fee added to all customers’ bills, the response was a flat-out “no.” On the other side of the state line, Missouri legislators also nixed the request.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneberhar ... structure/