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Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:20 pm
by GunnyGene
Governor signed the bill today. Effective June 1, 2020

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2021021 ... in-montana

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:26 pm
by Grunt67
Yep! Saw that earlier today. Every little bit helps. Need to get 50.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:58 pm
by GunnyGene
Grunt67 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:26 pm
Yep! Saw that earlier today. Every little bit helps. Need to get 50.
I don't think we'll ever see all 50, unless it becomes a Federal law. Might get to 44 or 45 tho.

An up to date map:

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Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:41 pm
by RanchRoper
Wouldn't take much to set California adrift and it can float over to those other islands....just sayin'. :)

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:13 pm
by BigAl52
Ya but you would miss RifleTom

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:26 pm
by Grunt67
RanchRoper wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:41 pm
Wouldn't take much to set California adrift and it can float over to those other islands....just sayin'. :)
Agree, RR. Been waiting on that for years.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:24 am
by Hatchdog
Boy, my state is blue for politics and blue for carry. Always have hated the color blue. :(

Sigh, at least we are shall issue, that’s a small consolation.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:55 pm
by GeoBoy
Whenever we travel out west, Montanan, Wyoming and the Dakota’s, we feel safer because most everyone is carrying. I figure if someone were to give us trouble, a local would probably intervene.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:28 pm
by Jdl447
Ohio just turned green :mrgreen:

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:55 pm
by RanchRoper
Can you adopt Alberta as a state? We’ve got more oil than you’ll ever need.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:22 pm
by CT_Shooter
John Hopkins Medicine wrote:An estimated 26% of Americans ages 18 and older -- about 1 in 4 adults -- suffers from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year. Many people suffer from more than one mental disorder at a given time. In particular, depressive illnesses tend to co-occur with substance abuse and anxiety disorders.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... 0disorders.
I prefer regulations for firearms and, happily, I live in a state that provides clear regulations in that regard. I am permitted to carry a concealed defensive weapon, I can buy and sell firearms instantly, I can buy ammunition and reloading equipment and components, and I can enjoy my shooting sports all day long. What's not to like?

Of course, it's clear that political ideology hasn't influenced this discussion, at all.

Love the Blues.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:26 pm
by GunnyGene
CT_Shooter wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:22 pm
John Hopkins Medicine wrote:An estimated 26% of Americans ages 18 and older -- about 1 in 4 adults -- suffers from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year. Many people suffer from more than one mental disorder at a given time. In particular, depressive illnesses tend to co-occur with substance abuse and anxiety disorders.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... 0disorders.
I prefer regulations for firearms and, happily, I live in a state that provides clear regulations in that regard. I am permitted to carry a concealed defensive weapon, I can buy and sell firearms instantly, I can buy ammunition and reloading equipment and components, and I can enjoy my shooting sports all day long. What's not to like?

Of course, it's clear that political ideology hasn't influenced this discussion, at all.

Love the Blues.
Just for starters, the fact that there is no other Right that requires a fee to exercise it. And many people cannot afford the costs associated with required permitting and training, which are quite high in some States - on top of ownership costs. Should they be priced out of the Right?

I can do everything you mentioned without any permit whatsoever. :)

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:13 am
by Vaquero
Amen Gene, Amen.

RP

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:16 am
by Hatchdog
RanchRoper wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:55 pm
Can you adopt Alberta as a state? We’ve got more oil than you’ll ever need.
How bout a trade, California for Alberta.

Just kidding of course, I have family and friends in California.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:23 pm
by RanchRoper
Just get rid of the border and call it good. North Montana: see? Easy.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:07 am
by GFK
GunnyGene wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:26 pm
CT_Shooter wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:22 pm
John Hopkins Medicine wrote:An estimated 26% of Americans ages 18 and older -- about 1 in 4 adults -- suffers from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year. Many people suffer from more than one mental disorder at a given time. In particular, depressive illnesses tend to co-occur with substance abuse and anxiety disorders.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... 0disorders.
I prefer regulations for firearms and, happily, I live in a state that provides clear regulations in that regard. I am permitted to carry a concealed defensive weapon, I can buy and sell firearms instantly, I can buy ammunition and reloading equipment and components, and I can enjoy my shooting sports all day long. What's not to like?

Of course, it's clear that political ideology hasn't influenced this discussion, at all.

Love the Blues.
Just for starters, the fact that there is no other Right that requires a fee to exercise it. And many people cannot afford the costs associated with required permitting and training, which are quite high in some States - on top of ownership costs. Should they be priced out of the Right?

I can do everything you mentioned without any permit whatsoever. :)
Agree. A right is not a right, if you have to pay to exercise it. But, some may look at firearms as a way to generate funds, kinda like taxes on gas and cigarettes. Just like cigarettes, some may be attempting to tax firearms out of some people reach? In effect, limiting the ownership of firearms.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:32 am
by GunnyGene
GFK wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:07 am
GunnyGene wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:26 pm
CT_Shooter wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:22 pm


I prefer regulations for firearms and, happily, I live in a state that provides clear regulations in that regard. I am permitted to carry a concealed defensive weapon, I can buy and sell firearms instantly, I can buy ammunition and reloading equipment and components, and I can enjoy my shooting sports all day long. What's not to like?

Of course, it's clear that political ideology hasn't influenced this discussion, at all.

Love the Blues.
Just for starters, the fact that there is no other Right that requires a fee to exercise it. And many people cannot afford the costs associated with required permitting and training, which are quite high in some States - on top of ownership costs. Should they be priced out of the Right?

I can do everything you mentioned without any permit whatsoever. :)
Agree. A right is not a right, if you have to pay to exercise it. But, some may look at firearms as a way to generate funds, kinda like taxes on gas and cigarettes. Just like cigarettes, some may be attempting to tax firearms out of some people reach? In effect, limiting the ownership of firearms.
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Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:46 am
by BigAl52
Idiots and nuts with or without regulations will have and get those guns. There isnt anything that can be done to keep them from getting those guns even if the guns are outlawed.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:28 pm
by Vaquero
Amen Al.

Re: Montana becomes 18th Permitless Carry State

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:24 pm
by GunnyGene
BigAl52 wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:46 am
Idiots and nuts with or without regulations will have and get those guns. There isnt anything that can be done to keep them from getting those guns even if the guns are outlawed.
Yep, well known fact. Right up there with the effectiveness of Gun Free Zone signs at preventing mayhem.