This is part of my theory—I am in BFE on country back roads. I prefer having my cars looked after regularly.markiver54 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:02 amIt would seem to me, (OCD or not), that you cannot really over-maintain a vehicle unless it becomes a strain on your bank account.
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We're picking up a new car.
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I agree to a point. I also am very rural (my wife calls it the middle of nowhere, but I think we are on the edge, and can just see the middle off in the distance). I make sure we are prepared for whatever may come along, but I don’t feel doubling down on oil changes is totally necessary for my use case. In your case, it sounds like you are pushing your cars, so it makes sense. I will be reading my owners manual and taking your points into consideration. Our vehicles are “offroad” literally every day, but not being pushed much, except my 595,000 km Tacoma. That thing gets flogged during hunting season. I found a broken leaf spring in it yesterday. I can’t imagine how that happened???
And yes, that IS a bull moose. He only had one antler, and the other one broke off just as we were dragging him into the truck. The weight of him, plus the 6 men pulling him into the truck are likely what broke the spring…
And yes, that IS a bull moose. He only had one antler, and the other one broke off just as we were dragging him into the truck. The weight of him, plus the 6 men pulling him into the truck are likely what broke the spring…
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That story is a lot of bull. 
Somewhere I have a pic of my bull whole in the back of my pickup, I’ll try to find it. But mine was a full 8’ bed on a F250 so no broken springs.
Somewhere I have a pic of my bull whole in the back of my pickup, I’ll try to find it. But mine was a full 8’ bed on a F250 so no broken springs.Re: We're picking up a new car.
That is one heck of a moose
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My plates finally arrived. Typically, I'm a don't advertise stuff kind of a person. I looked at most of the Virginia plates, and the gold from the DTOM plate was the closest to the wheels.
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Kinda an eye-sore on the front bumper. Does Virginia require a front plate?
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Yep, VA requires a front plate
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My buddy has decided it is time to sell his Iconic S4 show car. It truly is that nice. I've known the owner and this car going on 21 years.
If anyone is interested.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004- ... nts-anchor
If anyone is interested.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004- ... nts-anchor
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Looks like a fun garage to visit.
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Now that is a cool place. Thank you.
I tweaked yours to fit in.
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Lol, thats funny
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So we bought the car out of state, and the dealer installed a few options. Things like STI axle back exhaust, extended center armrest, metal skid plate, STI short shifter, among other things.
We had an issue with the rear charging ports not getting power. They simply didn't work. We found this out about a week after we picked up the car. I checked the fuses, asked the forums. I'm over an hour from the nearest dealer. If I can fix the issue myself and deal with it in under those 4 to 5 (2.5 hours there and back and a few hours waiting at the dealer) hours, it saves me time.
General consensus: don't take the center console apart, or the center armrest apart, use the dealer and have them repair it under warranty.
I was in town and stopped at a dealership. We'd purchased a Crosstrek from them back in 2019. The service department was meh, last time I went in for the first free oil change. They wouldn't shuttle me home because I lived too far away, and they don't give loaners for the oil change. With drive time, the first oil change took 7 hours. Not only that, but, the "OIL" change was free, the bleeping inspections and other stuff they "did" was 149 bucks.
I went into the service bay and inquired if unpowered rear charging ports were a known issue, if there was a second place for fuses that I wasn't finding, etc. The dealer says, 'Nope, can't help with the information. No, you can't talk to a tech about this issue. It must be done under warranty.'
Okay, I set up an appointment for 7:30 am.
Later that day, I received an email, "How did we do?" from the dealer.
I arrive at 7:30 am.
Hand over my key fob and decline the oil change and car wash. The service advisor seemed perturbed by that.
"Oh, yeah we wouldn't want the car wash washing your mudflaps," he rolled his eyes when saying it.
My mudflaps are not the dinky Subaru ones. I live on 2 miles of dirt road. Here I am maintaining the dirt road.
I responded "thank you," and went to the waiting room. I said, I'll be waiting.
He asked, "You're waiting? For the shuttle?"
I said, "I live over an hour away, I'm waiting here."
So I wait, working on another short story. He comes in about an hour and a half later and says. "So there are some interior modifications. That's the cause of the problem."
I responded, "What modifications?"
"The center armrest," he said.
"We bought the car from the dealer with that installed. It, along with the STI axle back and short shifter, were dealer-installed and on the car when we bought it." I said.
"Yes, but that's not how it left the factory. It'll be 380 bucks for us to take it apart and diagnose it to fix it." He said.
"So you're not going to do the work under warranty?" I asked.
"No, that's not how the car left the factory." He said.
"So, you don't warranty dealer-installed options?" I asked.
"You can take it back to the dealer you bought it from," he replied.
"Okay, pull the car around," I said. I mean for 380 bucks, I'd figure out what the problem was.
"You're not going to do the work?" he asked.
"No, you aren't doing the warranty work. Pull the car around." I said.
He walked off, telling me to "take the car to the dealer that I bought it from. "
I was flabbergasted. I went and used the restroom. Waited in the waiting area, didn't hear my car.
Twenty minutes passed. I went out to the bay and asked, "Where is my car?"
"They are putting it back together," he said.
I stopped in the bay and turned to him. "Putting it back together? That's bullpoo, I didn't authorize any non-warranty work. This is why I didn't bring the Crosstrek that we bought from you for work."
(Somewhat of a misnomer, we have three Subarus: the 2019 Crosstrek with 150, the 2021 Impreza with 120k, and this new WRX.) We have had zero warranty work on either of the other Subarus. The WRX is the first time I have had to bring a Subaru in for "warranty" work.)
He said, "Then take it back to the dealer you bought it from."
I stood in the service bay waiting for my car. Another 10 minutes had passed. The service bay was full now with five or six people dropping cars off.
The service writer walked back into the bay after driving off a customer's car.
"We are getting it back together," he said.
"What do you mean, I did not authorize any nonwarranty work?" I said.
"We are getting it done," he said. "Calm down."
I'm not a loud guy, and was not loud in any form. I wasn't talking, griping, or being rude. I was simply waiting.
"Getting what done," I said. "Where is my car? It's been half an hour."
"I told you we are getting it back together," he said. "We are fixing it."
"That's not what you said in the other room," I pointed to the waiting room. "You tried to charge me 380 bucks to take it apart for warranty work. What kind of bullpoo is this?"
"Calm down," He said. "We are fixing it, I told you."
At this point, I suspected he was pretty much holding me there until I paid the 380 bucks, so I said. "You've got two minutes before I call the police and get my keys and car back."
I opened my phone and set a timer.
I got my car back in 3 minutes. I heard it start around two minutes. I didn't get a receipt of the warranty work, nor have I received a "How did we do?" email from the dealer.
Car after they drove it around.
Dealer intake tag still on the key.
Moral of the story, I suppose. If you have dealer-installed options, carry the paperwork of those being installed by the dealer. Spoke to my salesman from whom we bought the car. He sent us his copies of the dealer work order. I suspect, but can't prove, that when I called BS on them charging me for the warranty repair, they ran the VIN, called the dealer in Maryland, and found out that in fact, everything on the car was dealer-installed Subaru factory parts. The service writer simply wanted me to pay an additional 380 bucks on top of what he billed Subaru of America.
Do I believe they would have sat on the car all day? Yeah, I do. When I got the 2019 Crosstrek back, its paperwork said the free oil change had been done about 90 minutes after I dropped it off. I sat in the waiting room for another 3.5 hours for nothing, even after asking several times. When I did get the bill for all the "other checks" I was so effin tired of being there I paid it and never took the car back.
So what are my options now? I have two other dealers I can go to, well, three, 1.20 hours away, and two 1.5 hours away. But short of anything major, or recall specific items, I'll have my local guys take care of it.
We had an issue with the rear charging ports not getting power. They simply didn't work. We found this out about a week after we picked up the car. I checked the fuses, asked the forums. I'm over an hour from the nearest dealer. If I can fix the issue myself and deal with it in under those 4 to 5 (2.5 hours there and back and a few hours waiting at the dealer) hours, it saves me time.
General consensus: don't take the center console apart, or the center armrest apart, use the dealer and have them repair it under warranty.
I was in town and stopped at a dealership. We'd purchased a Crosstrek from them back in 2019. The service department was meh, last time I went in for the first free oil change. They wouldn't shuttle me home because I lived too far away, and they don't give loaners for the oil change. With drive time, the first oil change took 7 hours. Not only that, but, the "OIL" change was free, the bleeping inspections and other stuff they "did" was 149 bucks.
I went into the service bay and inquired if unpowered rear charging ports were a known issue, if there was a second place for fuses that I wasn't finding, etc. The dealer says, 'Nope, can't help with the information. No, you can't talk to a tech about this issue. It must be done under warranty.'
Okay, I set up an appointment for 7:30 am.
Later that day, I received an email, "How did we do?" from the dealer.
I arrive at 7:30 am.
Hand over my key fob and decline the oil change and car wash. The service advisor seemed perturbed by that.
"Oh, yeah we wouldn't want the car wash washing your mudflaps," he rolled his eyes when saying it.
My mudflaps are not the dinky Subaru ones. I live on 2 miles of dirt road. Here I am maintaining the dirt road.
I responded "thank you," and went to the waiting room. I said, I'll be waiting.
He asked, "You're waiting? For the shuttle?"
I said, "I live over an hour away, I'm waiting here."
So I wait, working on another short story. He comes in about an hour and a half later and says. "So there are some interior modifications. That's the cause of the problem."
I responded, "What modifications?"
"The center armrest," he said.
"We bought the car from the dealer with that installed. It, along with the STI axle back and short shifter, were dealer-installed and on the car when we bought it." I said.
"Yes, but that's not how it left the factory. It'll be 380 bucks for us to take it apart and diagnose it to fix it." He said.
"So you're not going to do the work under warranty?" I asked.
"No, that's not how the car left the factory." He said.
"So, you don't warranty dealer-installed options?" I asked.
"You can take it back to the dealer you bought it from," he replied.
"Okay, pull the car around," I said. I mean for 380 bucks, I'd figure out what the problem was.
"You're not going to do the work?" he asked.
"No, you aren't doing the warranty work. Pull the car around." I said.
He walked off, telling me to "take the car to the dealer that I bought it from. "
I was flabbergasted. I went and used the restroom. Waited in the waiting area, didn't hear my car.
Twenty minutes passed. I went out to the bay and asked, "Where is my car?"
"They are putting it back together," he said.
I stopped in the bay and turned to him. "Putting it back together? That's bullpoo, I didn't authorize any non-warranty work. This is why I didn't bring the Crosstrek that we bought from you for work."
(Somewhat of a misnomer, we have three Subarus: the 2019 Crosstrek with 150, the 2021 Impreza with 120k, and this new WRX.) We have had zero warranty work on either of the other Subarus. The WRX is the first time I have had to bring a Subaru in for "warranty" work.)
He said, "Then take it back to the dealer you bought it from."
I stood in the service bay waiting for my car. Another 10 minutes had passed. The service bay was full now with five or six people dropping cars off.
The service writer walked back into the bay after driving off a customer's car.
"We are getting it back together," he said.
"What do you mean, I did not authorize any nonwarranty work?" I said.
"We are getting it done," he said. "Calm down."
I'm not a loud guy, and was not loud in any form. I wasn't talking, griping, or being rude. I was simply waiting.
"Getting what done," I said. "Where is my car? It's been half an hour."
"I told you we are getting it back together," he said. "We are fixing it."
"That's not what you said in the other room," I pointed to the waiting room. "You tried to charge me 380 bucks to take it apart for warranty work. What kind of bullpoo is this?"
"Calm down," He said. "We are fixing it, I told you."
At this point, I suspected he was pretty much holding me there until I paid the 380 bucks, so I said. "You've got two minutes before I call the police and get my keys and car back."
I opened my phone and set a timer.
I got my car back in 3 minutes. I heard it start around two minutes. I didn't get a receipt of the warranty work, nor have I received a "How did we do?" email from the dealer.
Car after they drove it around.
Dealer intake tag still on the key.
Moral of the story, I suppose. If you have dealer-installed options, carry the paperwork of those being installed by the dealer. Spoke to my salesman from whom we bought the car. He sent us his copies of the dealer work order. I suspect, but can't prove, that when I called BS on them charging me for the warranty repair, they ran the VIN, called the dealer in Maryland, and found out that in fact, everything on the car was dealer-installed Subaru factory parts. The service writer simply wanted me to pay an additional 380 bucks on top of what he billed Subaru of America.
Do I believe they would have sat on the car all day? Yeah, I do. When I got the 2019 Crosstrek back, its paperwork said the free oil change had been done about 90 minutes after I dropped it off. I sat in the waiting room for another 3.5 hours for nothing, even after asking several times. When I did get the bill for all the "other checks" I was so effin tired of being there I paid it and never took the car back.
So what are my options now? I have two other dealers I can go to, well, three, 1.20 hours away, and two 1.5 hours away. But short of anything major, or recall specific items, I'll have my local guys take care of it.
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Since they had it all apart and back together again. Did you check the ports to see if they did fix it?
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One of the ports is working. I'm waiting on a cigarette charger to check that one, and a usbc charger to check that one. I am betting that they are working.
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Doing a drive on Easter.
Washed all three on friday
Washed all three on friday
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Too bad Virginia requires a front license plate just like Washington. A lot of cars just don't have a place for one that looks good. I hate mine, ran without it for a time, most cops don't care but had one local cop who pulled me over and said get it on or next time I would be getting a $150 ticket.
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I agree. It's a shame to be required to put a plate on such good-looking cars. 
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We got so sick of dealers that we quit using the dealers except for warranty work, and even then we wrote on the repair authorization in big letters, WARRANTY WORK only before signing it. When I moved to Oklahoma, I stopped in the Nissan Dealership, the only one in 100 miles, and spoke with the Service Manager. I explained the negative experiences we had logged (Much like yours.) I told him when we came in for Oil Change or routine service work listed in the manual that is ALL we wanted, not a bumper to bumper see what we can find we can charge extra for...
"We don't do that here, we are five star rated."
I scheduled an appointment for the oil change for the Frontier.
Took the truck in, and I was early for the appointment. Two hours after my appointment time, still waiting, it's an OIL change. The Service Writer comes back with two pages of computer printout in his hands, and starts telling me what they recommend immediately, and what can wait, but does need attention...
On the Immediate attention list are brakes and rotors.
We had just driven across country, and the brakes and rotors were done the day before we left VA, I know they don't need done. Battery needs replaced. Replaced before we left VA so I wouldn't have to worry on the cross country trip.
On the Soon list, complete tranny flush, and replace tranny fluid. (Always been told NOT to flush the transmission unless you have serious issues.) Flush and refill the cooling system. Complete 4 wheel alignment. Tires were new just before the trip and no vibration on the entire trip, 1800 miles.
Total: $4,500 if they start on all the work immediately, and they have time today.
Nope, just the oil change.
Okay, we'll get started right away.
"What, they haven't done that yet?"
No, we do the 33 point inspection first.
Back her out and give me my keys. I didn't authorize the inspection, in fact, I specifically said, ONLY the oil change.
He started to argue, then thought better.
I found a local garage my neighbors recommended, and they have done all the work on ALL our vehicles.
Got a warranty notice from Nissan America, sent them a letter telling them I couldn't trust their dealership, sorry.
"We don't do that here, we are five star rated."
I scheduled an appointment for the oil change for the Frontier.
Took the truck in, and I was early for the appointment. Two hours after my appointment time, still waiting, it's an OIL change. The Service Writer comes back with two pages of computer printout in his hands, and starts telling me what they recommend immediately, and what can wait, but does need attention...
On the Immediate attention list are brakes and rotors.
We had just driven across country, and the brakes and rotors were done the day before we left VA, I know they don't need done. Battery needs replaced. Replaced before we left VA so I wouldn't have to worry on the cross country trip.
On the Soon list, complete tranny flush, and replace tranny fluid. (Always been told NOT to flush the transmission unless you have serious issues.) Flush and refill the cooling system. Complete 4 wheel alignment. Tires were new just before the trip and no vibration on the entire trip, 1800 miles.
Total: $4,500 if they start on all the work immediately, and they have time today.
Nope, just the oil change.
Okay, we'll get started right away.
"What, they haven't done that yet?"
No, we do the 33 point inspection first.
Back her out and give me my keys. I didn't authorize the inspection, in fact, I specifically said, ONLY the oil change.
He started to argue, then thought better.
I found a local garage my neighbors recommended, and they have done all the work on ALL our vehicles.
Got a warranty notice from Nissan America, sent them a letter telling them I couldn't trust their dealership, sorry.
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I don't look back at the things I can no longer do, I just look forward to the things I still can.
by the way he treats those who can do nothing for him.
I don't look back at the things I can no longer do, I just look forward to the things I still can.