Official 2019 NASCAR Thread

[JEBar]

I know that Kyle Busch has some strong supporters .... I never have been one of them .... the following taken from NASCAR.com (link below) reaffirms my impression of him

"Left behind: Kurt Busch left looking for plane ride after beating Kyle Busch ... Kurt Busch was supposed to fly back to North Carolina with brother Kyle Busch, but plans changed when Kurt took the victory at Kentucky. - 07/14/2019"


https://www.nascar.com/video/franchise/ ... yle-busch/

[Vaquero]

Brothers.

Like what Kurt said, gonna take it to Kyle's for some kind of family get together today.
Bet that'll be interesting.


RP

[Vaquero]

I know that Kyle Busch has some strong supporters .... I never have been one of them .... the following taken from NASCAR.com (link below) reaffirms my impression of him

"Left behind: Kurt Busch left looking for plane ride after beating Kyle Busch ... Kurt Busch was supposed to fly back to North Carolina with brother Kyle Busch, but plans changed when Kurt took the victory at Kentucky. - 07/14/2019"


https://www.nascar.com/video/franchise/ ... yle-busch/

Always thought he was a Hell of a driver.
Thought he got a raw deal from Mr. H when ole Little E left daddy's team.
That was '08, and that year Kyle won 8 races.
And Jr. only won 9 the whole time he was at HMS.
Kyle won 38 races while Jr. was at HMS, that's a little better than 4 to 1.
But he's an Earnhardt.

I like him. Hope he gets that second Championship.
Oh yeah, how many of them does little E. have??

RP

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

I know that Kyle Busch has some strong supporters .... I never have been one of them .... the following taken from NASCAR.com (link below) reaffirms my impression of him

"Left behind: Kurt Busch left looking for plane ride after beating Kyle Busch ... Kurt Busch was supposed to fly back to North Carolina with brother Kyle Busch, but plans changed when Kurt took the victory at Kentucky. - 07/14/2019"


https://www.nascar.com/video/franchise/ ... yle-busch/

Kurt seemed to take that pretty lightheartedly. Who knows the real reason why. Kyle is not one to explain just to satisfy his haters.

Check out the very decent interview by Kyle after the race, praise for his brother and his team:

https://www.nascar.com/video/franchise/ ... he-deal/#1

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Always thought he was a Hell of a driver.
Thought he got a raw from Mr. H

I agree and always wondered how much Hendrick regretted that move.

Especially so every time he wins another.

[JEBar]

Always thought he was a Hell of a driver.
Thought he got a raw from Mr. H

I agree and always wondered how much Hendrick regretted that move.

Especially so every time he wins another.

possibly sometime in the future Hendrick may come out with a book that would answer such a question .... do hope so .... there is no doubt whatsoever of Kyle's driving ability .... I was one who was delighted to see him go and am even happier about it today .... if you look at Hendrick's, drivers Darrel Waltrip was the only one I can remember who had an attitude and/or lack of maturity anywhere near Kyle's .... I respect Hendrick for that

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

One thing I've learned about Hendrick, is that he likes to win. Now everybody likes to win, but he "really" likes to win. So much so that I've seen it backfire on him. If he selected a driver that was supposed to be a superstar and they weren't, he would get rid of them. Checking back quick on the stats, I see that Kyle only won 4 races for Hendrick in the 3 full years he was there. I'm sure that was a good part of the reason he let him go. Also, once Hendrick is "done" with a driver, they are shunned from then on even though they are still an employee there. They did the same thing to Brian Vickers. Which I thought was pretty funny when he took out Johnson to win on one of his last races there. Only problem was, I believe he took out Jr too.

[Vaquero]

One thing I've learned about Hendrick, is that he likes to win. Now everybody likes to win, but he "really" likes to win. So much so that I've seen it backfire on him. If he selected a driver that was supposed to be a superstar and they weren't, he would get rid of them. Checking back quick on the stats, I see that Kyle only won 4 races for Hendrick in the 3 full years he was there. I'm sure that was a good part of the reason he let him go. Also, once Hendrick is "done" with a driver, they are shunned from then on even though they are still an employee there. They did the same thing to Brian Vickers. Which I thought was pretty funny when he took out Johnson to win on one of his last races there. Only problem was, I believe he took out Jr too.

Well according to those stats then Kyle still did better at HMS than Jr.
Kyle gets 4 in 3 yrs. and Jr. takes what 9 yrs. to get 9 nine wins.
While Jr. was at HMS, Kyle won like 38 races, what's that like better than 4 to 1, and 1 Championship.

I remember Brian taking Johnson and Jr. out, I laughed so hard.
Never been a Johnson fan either.
Here ya go, if ya want to see it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7A5R06Am-A

RP

[JEBar]

as acknowledged, he's a very talented driver and will most certainly be in the NASCAR Hall Of Fame .... my issues with him stem from his long standing immaturity and the way he handles it when things don't go his way

https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/201 ... r-tantrums

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

I "am" a Jr fan, but did not want to see him go to Hendrick. My wish was that Teresa would come around and be reasonable with him. Sure enough DEI was the highlight of his career. And what happened to Teresa? She faded out pretty quick. Going against her late husband's direction to boot. DEI went and did Michael Waltrip wrong as well. The team went from hero to zero in no time.

[JEBar]

I was a Sr fan who tried to get behind Jr .... as a Chevy fan I have no problem with Hendrick, hated to see Stewart-Haas switch brands .... as drivers go, I follow the 48 and still believe it was a mistake to separate Chad and Jimmy ... for non Chevy teams I do like Harvick and can hold my nose and pull for Truex

[Vaquero]

as acknowledged, he's a very talented driver and will most certainly be in the NASCAR Hall Of Fame .... my issues with him stem from his long standing immaturity and the way he handles it when things don't go his way

https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/201 ... r-tantrums

Tony Stewart was/is a pretty darn good driver also, but
was also a bad loser, there have been quite a few through out the years.
But like I said before I don't follow it like I used to.
Probably seen more races this year than in the past few years put together.
I usually can find better things to do than sitting in front of the TV.

RP

[Vaquero]

Never was an Earnhardt fan, but he could drive that was for sure.
The only driver that Hendricks ever had other than Kyle that I liked was Terry Labonte.
Harvick is good one also, but he don't like losing either.
Now Truex is showing signs of being top notch drier as well.

RP

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Tony Stewart was/is a pretty darn good driver also, but
was also a bad loser, there have been quite a few through out the years.

Although hard to like in the beginning, I was a solid Tony Stewart fan all through the years, right up till almost the end. Then he did Ryan Newman wrong. Here Tony was already out of the Chase and Ryan was fighting to either get in or salvage trying to stay in. He and Tony tangled and knocked Ryan out. His one time driver yet. That ended that for me.

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Never was an Earnhardt fan, but he could drive that was for sure.

That's one reason why Kyle is so popular today. I believe we can safely say that he's more like Earnhardt than any other driver out there. Like him or not DW, a guy who is a wealth of knowledge, said Kyle Busch is the most exciting driver he's ever known.

[Vaquero]

Never was an Earnhardt fan, but he could drive that was for sure.

That's one reason why Kyle is so popular today. I believe we can safely say that he's more like Earnhardt than any other driver out there. Like him or not DW, a guy who is a wealth of knowledge, said Kyle Busch is the most exciting driver he's ever known.

I agree and have said that for several years now. Jr. was never the driver his dad was.
DW said something like Kyle was the only one that could 3 wide all by himself.
He made a couple passes last night that no one else could make.

RP

[Vaquero]

Speaking of Sr. I went to three races at Talladega, late 90's, and 2000.
He won all three, the one in 2000 was his last win, period.

RP

[JEBar]

That's one reason why Kyle is so popular today. I believe we can safely say that he's more like Earnhardt than any other driver out there. Like him or not DW, a guy who is a wealth of knowledge, said Kyle Busch is the most exciting driver he's ever known.

in some ways he certainly is but in at least one key area, Kyle can't come close .... Sr was extremely talented and could read the air currents in the draft like no other driver .... it was often said he could see the air ... when asked about another driver cutting him off or trying to bump him aside, in after the race interviews he respond, that's racing .... 2 or 3 races later when he put that driver into a wall, in after the race interviews he'd respond, that's racing .... Kyle can most certainly dish it our but he's a crier when the same thing is done to him

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Sr was extremely talented and could read the air currents in the draft like no other driver .... it was often said he could see the air

Agree. He was a pioneer and had an amazing talent with it.

Glad to say that I got to see Dale drive at least once. Saw him qualify in Martinsville back in the fall of '97.

[Vaquero]

I remember one the last IROC races where he got sent into grass.
Went through the grass and came back up on the track almost as if it were a normal thing.

RP