Wild boar in Canada

[Hatchdog]

Happy the British Columbia population appears to be small but unhappy there are any in that area at all. We have a get away place not too far from BC that could be vulnerable to them. There is a very large parcel owned by a timber company behind us that could be a good place to hunt the little monsters should they ever show up. (Hope not)

[clovishound]

Feral hogs are the number one reason I always carry a sidearm when in the woods. Even when I am carrying my 30-06. I don't like my chances of being able to hit a close up charging hog with a bolt action, scoped rifle. I might try one shot, then drop the rifle and pull the Springfield Arms. Actually the plan is to drop the rifle regardless and pull the .45.

I'm sure I've told this here before, but my best friend's son was charged by a feral hog. My buddy said his bolt action rifle sounded like a semi-auto. Fortunately the only damage was the hog ripped a hole in his trouser leg. I think a new set of underwear was in order as well.

[GunnyGene]

Feral hogs are the number one reason I always carry a sidearm when in the woods. Even when I am carrying my 30-06. I don't like my chances of being able to hit a close up charging hog with a bolt action, scoped rifle. I might try one shot, then drop the rifle and pull the Springfield Arms. Actually the plan is to drop the rifle regardless and pull the .45.

I'm sure I've told this here before, but my best friend's son was charged by a feral hog. My buddy said his bolt action rifle sounded like a semi-auto. Fortunately the only damage was the hog ripped a hole in his trouser leg. I think a new set of underwear was in order as well.

What ammo do you load in your .45 for this purpose?

[clovishound]

I normally carry my standard SD ammo. I believe it's 230 HP. I haven't looked at the box in a while. I need to cycle through my SD ammo and get some fresh.

I've thought about going back to my 9mm for self defense while hunting. The main reason is 17 rounds without a reload. Somehow I FEEL safer with .45, but 8 rounds without a reload is significantly less, and yes, hogs do travel in groups. I am more accurate with the .45. Hammer fired vs striker in the 9. It's not a significant difference, but I do have tighter groups with the Springfield. As I spent more time shooting my 1911, I became increasingly dissatisfied with the striker fired 9mm, so I switched to a hammer fired XDE in .45. I'm just more likely to spend time at the range with the XDE, and I don't have to stock another caliber for range work, as I normally shoot .45 and .38 at the range.

[GunnyGene]

I have the same concern with hogs as you, so also carry around my property - 9mm or 1911. Since grown hogs are pretty well armored up I favor a deep penetrating ammo rather than a JHP which may not reach the vitals unless you get that perfectly placed round, which is unlikely if you're being attacked. Too much hair, thick skin, possibly calcified fat, and heavy bone. I've been looking at the Lehigh Defense bullets for this in both calibers. Underwood Ammo carries them in 9mm and .45acp. Solid copper is lighter, but makes up for it in velocity at close range. Whether that would be a better penetrating round, given the light weight, I don't know. I need to research it more.

For example, if say a 250lb hog starts charging you from 20 yds at 20mph you've got less than 3 seconds to either kill him or get out of his way. Doesn't give you much time to worry about sight picture.

[Hatchdog]

Anytime I’m at the property I mentioned above I carry by S&W 1006 10mm. It’s loading with a 180 gr hard cast bear load, nine in the mag, one in the chamber and two extra mags. I carry it in a horizontal shoulder holster with two extra mags on the opposite side. This way I can access the pistol while I’m driving the atv or hiking with a day pack. The hard cast bullets are great for penetration thru bone and hard tissue. I pity the piggie that confronts me. (Not really, I don’t want to confront one ever).

[GunnyGene]

Anytime I’m at the property I mentioned above I carry by S&W 1006 10mm. It’s loading with a 180 gr hard cast bear load, nine in the mag, one in the chamber and two extra mags. I carry it in a horizontal shoulder holster with two extra mags on the opposite side. This way I can access the pistol while I’m driving the atv or hiking with a day pack. The hard cast bullets are great for penetration thru bone and hard tissue. I pity the piggie that confronts me. (Not really, I don’t want to confront one ever).

Ok, I bit the bullet(s) and ordered 100rnds each of Underwood.

45 ACP +P 255gr. Flat Nose Hi-Tek Coated Hard Cast Hunting Ammo

9mm Luger +P 147gr. Flat Nose Black Cherry Coated Hard Cast Hunting Ammo

You owe me $269.90 if they don't perform as advertised.

[Hatchdog]

Sure hope they work out as expected as that’s a pretty steep ammo bill.

Really tho, I hope you never need to use them.

[GunnyGene]

Sure hope they work out as expected as that’s a pretty steep ammo bill.

Really tho, I hope you never need to use them.

Just prepping for the hog apocalypse.

Btw, here's a 25 minute video of a ammo test on a couple dead hogs. A little gritty, if you ain't up for some carving. Uses 9mm, 10mm, and .45acp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vennT7owzBQ

[markiver54]

When on the mountain at our cabin, I carry my 686 357 mag filled with 180 gr. H&N bear loads. I shoot this revolver better than any other, so I feel safe with it. Easily accessed from my hip when I'm on the 4wheeler. I don't think there are any pigs up there, but a black bear encounter would not be uncommon.

[Hatchdog]

Sure hope they work out as expected as that’s a pretty steep ammo bill.

Really tho, I hope you never need to use them.

Just prepping for the hog apocalypse.

Btw, here's a 25 minute video of a ammo test on a couple dead hogs. A little gritty, if you ain't up for some carving. Uses 9mm, 10mm, and .45acp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vennT7owzBQ

Interesting video and man that guy had a sharp knife. Interesting the 9mm that bounced off the shoulder. Equally interesting is how much damage the 45 acp did.

[GunnyGene]

Sure hope they work out as expected as that’s a pretty steep ammo bill.

Really tho, I hope you never need to use them.

Just prepping for the hog apocalypse.

Btw, here's a 25 minute video of a ammo test on a couple dead hogs. A little gritty, if you ain't up for some carving. Uses 9mm, 10mm, and .45acp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vennT7owzBQ

Interesting video and man that guy had a sharp knife. Interesting the 9mm that bounced off the shoulder. Equally interesting is how much damage the 45 acp did.

That was a Hornady Critical Duty = 135 grain specifically designed to penetrate. I've shot a lot of it, and was surprised that it didn't penetrate. Looks like it expanded before it got to the bone, which would account for the failure.

His dog looked pretty interested in the pig also.

[clovishound]

Interesting video and man that guy had a sharp knife. Interesting the 9mm that bounced off the shoulder. Equally interesting is how much damage the 45 acp did.

When you are doing most things with a knife, sharp is the name of the game. I'm not surprised at the .45 ACP. It has a reputation for getting the job done. All the 9mm specialty rounds are attempting to get a 9mm to perform like a .45. I prefer to go straight to what you know works.

Don't get me wrong, 9mm is an effective self defense caliber. It has the advantage of more rounds available and a smaller package to carry. That makes a lot of sense for normal concealed carry. For self defense in the woods, Size and capacity take a back seat to hard hitting, IMO. Having said that, I have carried a 9mm in the woods for self defense and didn't feel undergunned.

[Redthies]

Ok, I bit the bullet(s) and ordered 100rnds each of Underwood.

45 ACP +P 255gr. Flat Nose Hi-Tek Coated Hard Cast Hunting Ammo

9mm Luger +P 147gr. Flat Nose Black Cherry Coated Hard Cast Hunting Ammo

You owe me $269.90 if they don't perform as advertised.

I have HSMs “Bear Load” hard cast 180s for my .357 Mag. I’ve never had to shoot anything other than paper with them, but they dropped that paper in its tracks! If that makes you feel any better?

[clovishound]

What was the weight and rag content of that paper? It makes a big difference, you know!

[GunnyGene]

Ok, I bit the bullet(s) and ordered 100rnds each of Underwood.

45 ACP +P 255gr. Flat Nose Hi-Tek Coated Hard Cast Hunting Ammo

9mm Luger +P 147gr. Flat Nose Black Cherry Coated Hard Cast Hunting Ammo

You owe me $269.90 if they don't perform as advertised.

I have HSMs “Bear Load” hard cast 180s for my .357 Mag. I’ve never had to shoot anything other than paper with them, but they dropped that paper in its tracks! If that makes you feel any better?

I have a ornery 2ft dia. 5ft high oak stump I've been trying to cut down for 2 years. I'm hoping the Underwood will finish it off.

[Vaquero]

Ok, I bit the bullet(s) and ordered 100rnds each of Underwood.

45 ACP +P 255gr. Flat Nose Hi-Tek Coated Hard Cast Hunting Ammo

9mm Luger +P 147gr. Flat Nose Black Cherry Coated Hard Cast Hunting Ammo

You owe me $269.90 if they don't perform as advertised.

I have HSMs “Bear Load” hard cast 180s for my .357 Mag. I’ve never had to shoot anything other than paper with them, but they dropped that paper in its tracks! If that makes you feel any better?

So... did it just slide right off, or
Did it kinda peel off and fall on it's face

RP

[GunnyGene]

UPS delivered my ammo today. Tried it out in the Tisas 1911 and P365, one mag of each. Cycles normally, goes bang. Recoil was not noticeably heavier than any other ammo for these guns. I think the 9mm case might be a tiny bid fatter than my usual Hornady. Could only stuff 11 rounds in the Sig 12rnd mag.

[markiver54]

Can I ask what those 9's cost Ya Gunny?

[GunnyGene]

Can I ask what those 9's cost Ya Gunny?

9mm 100rnds = 119.95
.45acp 100rnds = 149.95

No shipping or sales tax due to the size of the order (>$200)