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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by stevej » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:46 am

I too think Red River and The Searchers were the two best John Wayne movies, hard to say which was the best of the two.

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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by John E Davies » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:22 pm

The Cheyenne Social Club, free here.... https://vimeo.com/156976122

Overall it’s a fairly silly fluff of a movie, but the dialog is terrific. Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda make perfect sidekicks....

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065542/qu ... =tt_trv_qu

The give and take reminds me a lot of Lonesome Dove. For example.

Referring to the Cattle Creek sign.

Woodrow Call:
...and if that ain't bad enough you got all them Greek words on there, too.

Gus McCrae:
I told you, Woodrow, a long time ago it ain't Greek, it's Latin.

Woodrow Call:
Well what does it say in Latin? [Gus blusters some gibberish] For all you know it invites people to rob us.

Gus McCrae:
Well the first man comes along that can read Latin is welcome to rob us, far as I'm concerned. I'd like a chance to shoot at a educated man once in my life.


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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:44 pm

Gus character had the best lines....Newt says Woodrow hasn't mentioned being his father after Gus told him..."Well, Woodrow ain't much of a mentioner when he can avoid it."

Truly one of the greatest westerns ever.

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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by Mistered » Fri May 10, 2019 3:55 pm

I started to watch the new version of '3:10 to Yuma' the other night - but fell asleep! What I saw of it I liked - as I like both Russell Crowe and Christian Bale and will catch it again soon.

Another really offbeat western is 'Seraphim Falls' with Pierce Brosnan and Liam Neeson. Watch it if you have a chance.

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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by markiver54 » Fri May 10, 2019 6:45 pm

Didn't know there was a newer 3:10 to Yuma. Enjoyed the first one though. Will have to look for it.
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Post by Mistered » Fri May 10, 2019 6:48 pm

Didn't know there was a newer 3:10 to Yuma.
2007

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Re: The best and worst western movies:

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Mistered wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 6:48 pm
Didn't know there was a newer 3:10 to Yuma.
2007
Wow Ed, maybe it WAS the newer one I saw. Been a while. Will have to watch it again. I like Crowe also, just don't remember Christian Bale being in it. I like him as well! Probably just part of my old man memory loss. ;)
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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by Redthies » Sat May 11, 2019 9:46 am

markiver54 wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 6:45 pm
Didn't know there was a newer 3:10 to Yuma. Enjoyed the first one though. Will have to look for it.
I’m not sure I knew there was an “old” one! Not really surprised though, as Hollyweird seems to be having a hard time with originality of late. The past 15 years or so seems to be fairly full of remakes.
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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by Ernie » Sat May 11, 2019 9:51 am

Forgot about the Cheyenne Social Club, will have to watch that again. Thanks for reminding me, really like Stewart and Fonda.

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Post by dddrees » Sat May 11, 2019 10:02 am

Ernie wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 9:51 am
Forgot about the Cheyenne Social Club, will have to watch that again. Thanks for reminding me, really like Stewart and Fonda.
Firecreek with Stewart and Fonda is another favorite of mine as well.

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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by Ernie » Sat May 11, 2019 2:26 pm

Thank you, I will have to look up Firecreek. Don't know if I have seen that one or not.

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Post by dddrees » Sat May 11, 2019 3:07 pm

Ernie wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 2:26 pm
Thank you, I will have to look up Firecreek. Don't know if I have seen that one or not.
Stewart and Fonda but Stewart being my favorite were in a number of fairly good Westerns. Fonda and I can't even name them of the top of my head to include Gun Fight at the Ok Coral which is liked by many but just Ok in my opinion. Stewart just happened to be more my style. The Man Who Shot Libertyy Valance with him, Wayne, and Marvin was real good as well.

How the West was Won which is typically mentioned but just not at the top of my list. Then there is Winchester 1873 and Destyry Rides Again. Heck I even like some of Bob Hope's hokey western stuff. But I guess that's because those were the movies I grew up on when they played them on TV.

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Post by Mistered » Sat May 11, 2019 3:14 pm

Stewart just happened to be more my style.
Mine as well.
And one of MY all time favorites is Winchester '73.

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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by RanchRoper » Sat May 11, 2019 3:17 pm

Fonda is good as Wyatt Earp in My Darling Clementine.

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Post by dddrees » Sat May 11, 2019 3:21 pm

Mistered wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 3:14 pm
Stewart just happened to be more my style.
Mine as well.
And one of MY all time favorites is Winchester '73.

For me I think if I had to pick it would be FireCreek because but then again I really like most of the movies and what Stewart did. I think the other I tend to watch a lot is the Shootist and even though Stewart is only a supporting actor in that one he is in it and I do really enjoy it.

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Post by dddrees » Sat May 11, 2019 3:22 pm

RanchRoper wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 3:17 pm
Fonda is good as Wyatt Earp in My Darling Clementine.
Ah Oops, yeah I got the title wrong. But as I said for me it's good just not one of my favorites.

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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by markiver54 » Sat May 11, 2019 3:24 pm

Have seen mention of the Shootist many times but have never seen it and don't know where to find it. :(
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Post by dddrees » Sat May 11, 2019 3:29 pm

markiver54 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 3:24 pm
Have seen mention of the Shootist many times but have never seen it and don't know where to find it. :(
Your kidding?

Actually it's one of my favorite John Wayne Westerns. He's much older of course but find the movie itself to be one of the better all around movies he's actually been in.


Definitely worth a watch if you can find it.

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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by markiver54 » Sat May 11, 2019 3:41 pm

Not kidding...just a bit ignorant I guess.
Actually, was never a big JW fan because of his lack of acting skills. Yes, I've watched many over the years and give his legacy a lot of credit...not saying I don't like him...heck, I used to fly a lot on business and when I lived in SoCal, saw that big statue every time I flew out of JW airport. Would like to see Shootist though!
The thing I always think of when his name comes up is that unique way of speaking.
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Re: The best and worst western movies:

Post by dddrees » Sat May 11, 2019 4:24 pm

markiver54 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 3:41 pm
Not kidding...just a bit ignorant I guess.
Actually, was never a big JW fan because of his lack of acting skills. Yes, I've watched many over the years and give his legacy a lot of credit...not saying I don't like him...heck, I used to fly a lot on business and when I lived in SoCal, saw that big statue every time I flew out of JW airport. Would like to see Shootist though!
The thing I always think of when his name comes up is that unique way of speaking.
Yeah, figured you weren't but I just couldn't help myself. True, he wasn't the best actor out there and most of his movies I watch isn't because I expect great acting. Pretty sure you"ll find he still isn't the greatest actor in the Shootist either but I find the movie and all of the components to include script, other actors, and story to be alot better than most John Wayne movies.

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