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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by Sir Henry » Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:48 am

I wonder what Clint Eastwood and a hundred other stars that made westerns in the 50’s through the 70’s would say.
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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by Vaquero » Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:20 am

I just hope he is prosecuted to the Full extent of the law.

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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by North Country Gal » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:27 am

I've heard stories about some of those old western stars having angry fits on movie sets when they've seen anyone mishandling guns. I think Clint was one and also Tom Selleck, to name a couple.
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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by daytime dave » Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:43 pm

I don't know about Clint Eastwood, but as I understand it, Tom Selleck is a gun guy. I saw a very nice exhibit of some of his guns on display at NRA Headquarters a decade ago.
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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by Handloader » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:13 pm

He pulled the trigger twice and yet he said he did not pull the trigger. must be PFM
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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by cooperhawk » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:41 pm

I'm not excusing him in any way but the property manager that gave him a loaded gun must be held accountable as well.
Just for a minute think that maybe someone wanted Alec to mess up and gave him loaded gun on purpose. That would be
more than Manslaughter. That would be murder.
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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by markiver54 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:48 pm

I still contend that he needs to know if his OWN gun is loaded as confirmed by HIMSELF. I know he's not a "gun" person so he may not know how. In that case he shouldn't be playing with guns in the first place.
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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by Vaquero » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:53 pm

markiver54 wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:48 pm
I still contend that he needs to know if his OWN gun is loaded as confirmed by HIMSELF. I know he's not a "gun" person so he may not know how. In that case he shouldn't be playing with guns in the first place.
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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by CT_Shooter » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:02 pm

North Country Gal wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:27 am
I've heard stories about some of those old western stars having angry fits on movie sets when they've seen anyone mishandling guns. I think Clint was one and also Tom Selleck, to name a couple.
I expect that Baldwin will be acquitted.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/20/movies/alec-baldwin-criminal-case.html wrote: Legal experts were divided on the merits of reviving the case, noting that traditional gun safety rules — such as never pointing a functional gun toward someone — do not always apply on film sets, and that investigators found he had been assured by the film’s safety crew that the gun did not contain live ammunition.

“The notion that you never point a gun at someone would sort of undo westerns for the past 100 years,” said Nancy Gertner, a retired federal judge.

The outcome of the case at trial — the State of New Mexico vs. Alexander (Alec) Rae Baldwin — would hinge on how jurors view two key questions: Should Mr. Baldwin have known of the danger involved in his actions that day? And, using a term of art in criminal law, did he act with a “willful disregard for the safety of others”?

There is a complex web of factors that would quite likely come up at trial, including the condition of the gun, which broke during F.B.I. testing, and Mr. Baldwin’s responsibility as a producer on the film.

Mr. Baldwin has asserted that even though he was a producer, he had no involvement in hiring crew members, including the movie’s armorer, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, who was responsible for guns and ammunition on the set. She has pleaded not guilty in the involuntary manslaughter case against her.
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Re: Alec Baldwin charged

Post by markiver54 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:53 pm

Pointing a gun for the purpose of film making is a given. I still would not point it much less pull the trigger if I had not checked it myself. I bet Selleck and Eastwood would agree.
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