The Supreme Court Decision is in.

[Sir Henry]

Check out Wisconsin firearm laws. Or lack of laws!

[GunnyGene]

Ammoland is reporting that the NJ AG has axed the "Justifiable Need" requirement for a permit.

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/06/nj-dro ... z7X8W7tKqh

[Vaquero]

Tennessee has a few mountains.

RP

[BMCTED]

Ammoland is reporting that the NJ AG has axed the "Justifiable Need" requirement for a permit.

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/06/nj-dro ... z7X8W7tKqh

Ammoland basic info is correct. Now for the yeahbutts.

Gov Phil Murphy immediately said: “Based on a deeply flawed constitutional methodology, a right-wing majority on the United States Supreme Court has just said that states can no longer decide for ourselves how best to limit the proliferation of firearms in the public sphere,”

Read more in the Philly Inquirer: https://www.inquirer.com/news/new-jerse ... 20623.html

The Supremes did a REAL good job on the "Keep and Bear" part ... but not much on the "shall not be infringed" part. If they did, every state would be gearing up for "Constitutional Carry".

I fully expect to see every one of the "May" issue states to say, "OK ... we HAVE to allow you to get a permit ... but it's gonna cost you $10,000 a year for the permit, STATE RUN ANNUAL training and testing with fees, AND State Run Liability Insurance ... or money, money and MORE money".

This is not to be construed as political. It's just a simple statement of fact. Some folks just do NOT like firearms. They fear them and will fight against them just as hard as they can.

[markiver54]

Yeh...the same ones who don't know the difference between Automatic and Semi Automatic.

[GunnyGene]

This is a much needed win for the Right to Bear Arms. Justice prevails!

Colion Noir talks about this. The SCOTUS opinion may lead to some undesirable outcomes. Specifically financial and what constitutes a "sensitive place". The big cities are not going to just roll over and all of a sudden become gun friendly.

About 10 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwJmxIKVvIw

[TheBackyardRange]

I sure do hope I didn't do something wrong, or set someone on edge.

As a new guy, I thought long and hard before posting this. I see it as a decision of a legal matter regarding firearms ... by non-elected officials. The ONLY job of the Supreme Court is to interrupt the Constitution of the United States ... not to make law or uphold the beliefs of one or the other political party.

Couple things. First, Supreme Court Justices are technically elected. The confirmation in the senate is an election by the official we elected to carry that out.

Second thing, the role of the Supreme Court is very broad and reaching, most of what we know of the court evolved over time. The original intent was one court to rule all courts and the power to compel government officials. The court itself issued decisions on whether or not it had the power to do certain things (that’s real power). The first time the court decided that it could even hear lawsuits against the states wasn’t until 1793. The doctrine of judicial review did not become a thing until 1803 when the court ruled that it had the power to overturn an act of Congress. The doctrine of judicial review says “No law or action can contradict the U.S. Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land” and that the court had the jurisdiction to determine if an act of the executive or legislative branch was constitutional. The court was given jurisdiction over a laws. The role of determining constitutionality was one that evolved.

[GFK]

Tennessee and North Carolina are on the list. Back on topic, a law is useless if people are unwillingly to follow it or enforce it. We all can read. The Constitution is fairly straightforward. It is simply a matter of if we want to abide by it or not. Some people like rules, and some don't. That is why we have jails. Unfortunately, laws may not be applied fairly. That is why we have a mess. Just my 2 cent.

[BMCTED]

Back on topic, a law is useless if people are unwillingly to follow it or enforce it. We all can read. The Constitution is fairly straightforward. It is simply a matter of if we want to abide by it or not. Some people like rules, and some don't. That is why we have jails. Unfortunately, laws may not be applied fairly. That is why we have a mess. Just my 2 cent.

Well said. If you are unaware a law exists, if you do not know the law or if you are relying on BOB On The Internet's opinion of what the law says ... you are doomed to suffer consequences.

Tennessee and North Carolina are on the list.

If I may asks, which list? Once predictable and reliable Southern States are pretty much neither these days.

[GFK]

Tennessee and North Carolina are on the list.

If I may asks, which list? Once predictable and reliable Southern States are pretty much neither these days.

Relocation list. We are thinking about moving some place that have more land and maybe further South. Laws are not much of a consideration. We are not planning on breaking any. We are thinking more of climate and traveling to places of interest.

[markiver54]

Again, my vote is for rural Western North Carolina. The mountains are beautiful and there's a LOT to do. Let me know if I can provide some insight.

[BMCTED]

Relocation list. We are thinking about moving some place that have more land and maybe further South. Laws are not much of a consideration. We are not planning on breaking any. We are thinking more of climate and traveling to places of interest.

Add North East Georgia to the list .... north of Cherokee County. Always a nice breeze up here to break up the heat and humidity, VERY mild winters. You do have to watch out for the black ice when driving in the hills and make sure you always say it clearly and distinctly. There are places up here where the sun never hits the road, so ice lingers. In normal times we do get a couple weeks of hi temps, but not many.

Constitutional Carry, but dang few public places to shoot. There are some ... but not many. If you don't own land, you almost have to join a club to find 100 yard rifle+ shooting.

In no way would I go south of Cherokee County ... most of that is Atlanta - ish ... and south of that is flat and hot, hot, hot.

[GunnyGene]

Will they or won't they? 4 important 2A cases awaiting some kind of action.

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2022 ... rts-n59765

This week will likely mark the release of the last cases of this term, so maybe we’ll see the Court take action on these four cases in the “clean-up” conference. I have a hard time with the idea that the justices are going to let these four cases dangle in the wind for several more months, especially when they don’t have to grant cert but can simply remand all of the cases down to the lower courts with instructions to follow the “text, history, and tradition” test laid out by Justice Thomas in the Bruen opinion last week.


Two of the four cases currently in legal limbo deal with bans on so-called large capacity magazines; Duncan v. Bonta takes on California’s ban while Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs v. Platkin challenges a nearly identical law in New Jersey. Both laws require existing owners of magazines that can hold more than ten rounds of ammunition to either permanently modify them, hand them over to law enforcement, or remove them from their possession. The third case is Bianchi v. Frosh, which argues that Maryland’s ban on “assault weapons” is unconstitutional, while the final case (Young v. Hawaii) challenges that state’s “may issue” policy for granting permits to openly carry a firearm.