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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

Post by CT_Shooter » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:34 pm

Actually, he did say the right answer is 16.
Steven Strogatz, Professor of Mathematics at Cornell University wrote: ...Now that we’re faced with a division and a multiplication, which one takes priority? If we carry out the division first, we get 4×4 = 16; if we carry out the multiplication first, we get 8÷8 = 1.

Which way is correct? The standard convention holds that multiplication and division have equal priority. To break the tie, we work from left to right. So the division goes first, followed by the multiplication. Thus, the right answer is 16.
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:12 pm
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He didn't say the right answer is 16. He explained how it could be 16. He ignored or missed that "The standard convention holds that multiplication and division have equal priority" is true except when parenthesis are involved. Hence this whole statement gets priority 2(2+2) over division in both BODMAS and PEMDAS order of operations rule. :mrgreen:
CT_Shooter wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:32 am
Steven Strogatz, writing in the NY Times, explains why the right answer is 16.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/02/scie ... edmas.html
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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

Post by markiver54 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:38 pm

Mags wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:31 pm
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I think we got trolled by Vaquero. He laid this egg and then disappeared.
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:50 am
I was told there'd be no math here.... ;)
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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

Post by Mags » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:40 pm

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Ah so he did :oops: . He still missed the nuanced where 'parenthesis are involved' exception though.
CT_Shooter wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:34 pm
Actually, he did say the right answer is 16.
Steven Strogatz, Professor of Mathematics at Cornell University wrote: ...Now that we’re faced with a division and a multiplication, which one takes priority? If we carry out the division first, we get 4×4 = 16; if we carry out the multiplication first, we get 8÷8 = 1.

Which way is correct? The standard convention holds that multiplication and division have equal priority. To break the tie, we work from left to right. So the division goes first, followed by the multiplication. Thus, the right answer is 16.
Mags wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:12 pm
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He didn't say the right answer is 16. He explained how it could be 16. He ignored or missed that "The standard convention holds that multiplication and division have equal priority" is true except when parenthesis are involved. Hence this whole statement gets priority 2(2+2) over division in both BODMAS and PEMDAS order of operations rule. :mrgreen:
CT_Shooter wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:32 am
Steven Strogatz, writing in the NY Times, explains why the right answer is 16.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/02/scie ... edmas.html
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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

Post by Vaquero » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:07 pm

Mags wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:31 pm
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I think we got trolled by Vaquero. He laid this egg and then disappeared.
Yornoc3 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:50 am
I was told there'd be no math here.... ;)
Sorry I got hung up in Science Class. :lol:

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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

Post by ESquared » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:31 am

I'm with Strogatz.
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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

Post by Redthies » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:28 am

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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

Post by Mags » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:17 pm

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Aside from ignoring the nuances in the presence of parenthesis, Strogatz also ignored that the equation can be expressed as a ratio or fraction by replacing the ÷ with a / like this 8/2(2+2).
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I'm with Strogatz.
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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

Post by ESquared » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:38 pm

I'm ignoring you, so we're even.
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Re: Hey, do any of y'all know??

Post by Mags » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:38 pm

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Actually I think that is rather 'odd'.
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I'm ignoring you, so we're even.
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