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Well, with a new trigger screw in hand, I decided to break down the Heritage Rough Rider to see what I might learn. So far I've learned that I need a lot more experience putting one back together than I would have guessed.

I did it twice. All of the parts seemed to fit, though getting the cylinder bolt and trigger to align was tricky, but I did it; however, I suspect it may be my problem. I don't get four clicks when I pull back the hammer.

Anyway, this gun is now an instructional tool. So, I'll try again...and again...and again.

Hands-on usually is the best training; and it sounds like you're getting your share of that with this project. Good show, and keep at it.

You've done better already then when I bought a Wolff gunspring pack to do a trigger job on my revolver (a Ruger SP101). I have a pretty detailed guide and schematics for this work, but it was complicated. I also noticed I probably didn't have all or the best tools to move ahead. Instead, I decided not to dis-assemble my revolver and had a qualified gunsmith do the work. I suspect that "needing more experience" is exactly where I would have been if I attempted it myself.

After going through the 30 dis-assembly steps in the printed trigger job guide (which also meant no less than 30 re-assembly steps), I came across the clincher that moved me to bail out of the project. The author of the guide published this warning to the reader:

Warning
An improper trigger job can render a revolver useless or result in a dangerous malfunction. Several parts in the revolver are carefully fitted at the factory. Any significant changes to these parts can make the trigger pull worse or render the revolver useless.

I let my imagination run a little wild with the warning for just a very few moments. That's about how long it took me to "bail out!" I'm certain my revolver would have become an "instructional tool" similar to what you are now working with, CT-Shooter. But like I said --- Good show! You're going after it, and will definitely profit from the gunsmith training.

Looking forward to your final report, and also your next HRR Range Report!
Take good care.

Not having spare parts after reassembly is usually a good sign.
Keep at it till everything clicks.

There are a couple of YouTubes that are pretty good.
BTW, when i put mine back together it was really tight and stiff (hammer) , but it loosened right up after a few cylinders.

All my Rugers SA get a trigger job with wolf springs . I use Super Blackhawk hunter hammer from there scoped pistols and I thin and reshape them for slip hammering . I cut the forcing cone to 11 Degrees for shooting cast bullets . The gun in pic was a 7.5" length barrel and I cut it to 3.5 " . The front sight is off a Ruger 22 Auto and I recut the rear sight wider . I love the birdshead grip so I add them to most of my SA Ruger . I cut all the cylinder pawls so I can reverse the cylinder and I do 100% of my own gunsmithing . Remember Ruger NEVER made a birdshead grips in 32-20 or 44-40 or NEVER made a Sheriff model in 44-40 either .

Henry88 wrote:There are a couple of YouTubes that are pretty good.
BTW, when i put mine back together it was really tight and stiff (hammer) , but it loosened right up after a few cylinders.

Thanks. I watched one while working on it; pausing and starting as I went along. I plan to watch another one before I try it again. It's all good; as long as I don't break anything. I'm learning from it.

RetiredSeabee wrote:Not having spare parts after reassembly is usually a good sign.

And, it made me happy, too; even though I failed to reassemble it well enough to be a working gun.

CT, since I took mine completely apart, and put back together, I get 4 clicks (barely) with the LR cylinder, but only 3 with the Mag Cylinder. That 4th click comes after just 5 degrees of hammer motion after the third click. In other words, the hammer is just about in the same place with both cylinders.

I would love to know what makes that 4th click.

The thing is, it appears to work fine. I have shot the LR but not the MAG, but will not hesitate to shoot the MAG when I get to the range.

The way I see it is, as long as that nub comes up to engage the cylinder to assure it's aligned, I don't see what could go wrong...

Here is the Youtube I found to the be the most helpful. Hard to watch the kid butchering the screws, but he did a good job of recording and explaining IMHO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAhxFwZfX5I

Henry88 wrote: Here is the Youtube I found to the be the most helpful. Hard to watch the kid butchering the screws, but he did a good job of recording and explaining IMHO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAhxFwZfX5I

Thanks, 88. This is the very same video I watched, paused and played, in order to have a guide to break it down and put it back together. I need to do it again, but the HRR is a perfect tool to work on before I even think about breaking down my Uberti Smokewagon. I'm glad I bought the gun and I'm sure I can get it back to "normal". I'm not so happy that the trigger screw snapped during range practice or that Heritage charged me $18 for a screw, but it all works out for the best, since I'm not worried about breaking it, anymore.

Good news and bad news. I'm feeling pain in my hip today, so I put off this week's range trip, hoping to feel better for next week. In the meantime, I decided to work on the Heritage Rough Rider again this morning and this time I did it! Broke it down and reassembled it so that it's a working gun again with all four clicks and all parts functioning as they should. I feel quite happy about my success. It was fun and a great learning experience. I'm sure I'll be able to do it again when and if I need to. Now, to get to the range again!

Great news, CT, on your gunsmithing. Sorry about the hip pain and that you have to put off your range trip. Take care of that ouch and plan out an easy and relaxing day.

I recall the first time I completely dis-assembled a firearm (12-ga shotgun) for a deep cleaning. Had never done that, and used only the instruction manual. Took it very slowly with not a little trepidation. But when I put it back together, everything worked excellently. What a great feeling! I'm certain you do feel very pleased with this successful outcome of a fully-working HRR! Good job

Now do you also service SA/DA revolvers?
Would you please send me your card whenever it's printed up, in case I need a gunsmith?
Thanks a lot!

Hers my "go to" for gun repairs, I like schematics/exploded views. Gun Parts Corp. I put a link for your gun !!

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufactur ... -43316.htm

DWD445 wrote:Hers my "go to" for gun repairs, I like schematics/exploded views. Gun Parts Corp. I put a link for your gun !!

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufactur ... -43316.htm

Thanks. PT7 also sent me to this website and I agree; it will be my go to parts store, too. When I needed one, Numrich had a trigger screw in stock for $3.50 shipping included, but I had already placed an order with HRR for $18. Within a few hours of placing it, I called HRR back to cancel (so I could buy it from Numrich instead). They said they'd be happy to cancel my order, but I would still have to pay the $14 shipping and handling charge, which could NOT be cancelled.

The Heritage website used to have a detailed parts list for the rimfires. They removed it from the site so now i guess you have to call.

I'll just refer to https://www.gunpartscorp.com in the future.

they have a lot of Walther parts also, thanks for the link.

Congrats on the gunsmithing job, CT.

The best part is you have a fully functioning revolver again.