Uberti El Patron 45 Colt In the Stable

[ESquared]

Posted about this impending arrival last week, but now have the "Grizzly Paw" version of Uberti's El Patron Single-Action Army (SAA) reproduction safely at home. As I understand it, the "Grizzly Paw" version (with longer grip for bigger hands) is a new model, and my Serial Number would reflect that - #50!

Disassembled and cleaned it up for the photo shoot and it's nicely assembled and fitted. The CCH receiver doesn't have a lot of surface area to show off that fine finish, but it's a nice accent to contrast with the deeply blued barrel, cylinder and main-frame.

That, and nice little features like numbered cylinders make it a keeper. This will be the one revolver I learn how to shoot well. Nice combo gun for the Brass Carbine 45 Colt. Don't have that photo shoot scheduled yet!

To the range as soon as the weather clears (icy, sleet, yuk).

[JEBar]

very nice indeed .... if it performs anywhere near as good as it looks, it will serve you well .... looking forward to you coming reports

[PT7]

X2 on "very nice indeed." And the checkering on your grips is very cool-looking. You've stabled a winner.

The CCH is a perfect contrast to the barrel and rest of the frame. I really like that same look on my Police and Stallion.

One comment when you first shoot it. Simply note the feel of the recoil. It is differently mild, which makes this caliber special to shoot. Enjoy-enjoy!
PT7

[Mags]

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Very nice indeed. Maybe I want one too.

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Posted about this impending arrival last week, but now have the "Grizzly Paw" version of Uberti's El Patron Single-Action Army (SAA) reproduction safely at home. As I understand it, the "Grizzly Paw" version (with longer grip for bigger hands) is a new model, and my Serial Number would reflect that - #50!

Disassembled and cleaned it up for the photo shoot and it's nicely assembled and fitted. The CCH receiver doesn't have a lot of surface area to show off that fine finish, but it's a nice accent to contrast with the deeply blued barrel, cylinder and main-frame.

That, and nice little features like numbered cylinders make it a keeper. This will be the one revolver I learn how to shoot well. Nice combo gun for the Brass Carbine 45 Colt. Don't have that photo shoot scheduled yet!

To the range as soon as the weather clears (icy, sleet, yuk).

[North Country Gal]

Congrats on a fine Colt style single action. Please do a range report when you get a chance.

[RanchRoper]

Beautiful. Uberti sure makes nice replicas.

[BigAl52]

It looks good in pink to

[Travlin]

That is a very nice single action. It looks like it has the 1860 Army type grip. I don't know why colt didn't use that bigger grip on the S.A.A.

[ESquared]

That is a very nice single action. It looks like it has the 1860 Army type grip. I don't know why colt didn't use that bigger grip on the S.A.A.

Man, you know your grips!

That's exactly the way many in the trade refer to it - "Army type..", not sure about the date, but saw a similar Uberti on Taylor's site that used that term...

[fortyshooter]

Very nice! I have the Uberti/Taylors "Running Iron" which is a 3.5 inch .45 Colt that has the Taylor's slicked up action.
Mine had the same grip yours has but for some reason I shoot it better with the Uberti Birdshead grip swapped on.
It is a really smooth and slick little shooter.
Now I did have one problem with it early on where the cylinder pin started to get peaned or burred at the lock groove.
I would polish off the burr and after a shooting session it would be back making removal difficult.
Being the toolmaker I machined up a new pin out of hardened steel and replaced it. No problems since.
The Pins are or can be a little soft on the Uberti.
New pin is the shorter one

Birdshead grip installed

Note...Your grip is larger than my original...just read your post again!

[ESquared]

I like the birdshead grip, especially the longer version, and I could see how that swap could work.

Before this Uberti even came in, I had read some posts on the CAS sites about the standard Uberti basepin and its built-in safety feature and some of the issues it was presenting to owners.

Found this place highly recommended, found a standard "Colt" part and installed it yesterday. Fantastic fit and the lock-up is just fantastic!

https://beltmountain.com/

[PT7]

ESquared,

Could you explain more what you found "...about the standard Uberti basepin and its built-in safety feature and some of the issues it was presenting to owners?" On my trio of Uberti S/A revolvers, I have three different types of basepins. I've not used the safety feature; not quite certain if it is a needed operation. Each revolver has some remove/replace challenges with this part.

I may pull them out today to check the lock-up, too.
Thanks.
PT7

I like the birdshead grip, especially the longer version, and I could see how that swap could work.

Before this Uberti even came in, I had read some posts on the CAS sites about the standard Uberti basepin and its built-in safety feature and some of the issues it was presenting to owners.

Found this place highly recommended, found a standard "Colt" part and installed it yesterday. Fantastic fit and the lock-up is just fantastic!

https://beltmountain.com/

[ESquared]

ESquared,

Could you explain more what you found "...about the standard Uberti basepin and its built-in safety feature and some of the issues it was presenting to owners?" On my trio of Uberti S/A revolvers, I have three different types of basepins. I've not used the safety feature; not quite certain if it is a needed operation. Each revolver has some remove/replace challenges with this part.

I may pull them out today to check the lock-up, too.
Thanks.
PT7

As usual, I can't locate the thread that led me down the path of ordering this part from Belt Mtn, but it was a combination of the fact that the factory pin has a double-notched "safety feature," that it had a tendency to come loose/pop out upon recoil and that it stuck out further than some folks liked (pure aesthetics).
In the process of reading through it, I read a post from an owner who opted for the Belt Mtn replacement and was very pleased with how the Colt part seemed to 'tighten things up' in terms of the action, cylinder rotation, etc. The implication was that the factory pin allowed for a certain amount of "play" that the Colt part did not.
No doubt it's a tight fit. I had to do a bit of wet/oil sanding with some 600 grit to get it to pass through the hole in the frame and the bushing that's inside the cylinder. When I mentioned "lock-up," what I meant was the way it all felt when I had it all put back together. That cylinder doesn't move AT ALL.
Hope that helps. By the way, this part isn't listed on the Belt Mtn website. I had to email them an inquiry explaining what Uberti I had and he knew immediately what part I needed.

[North Country Gal]

Based on the advice of the resident gunsmith over on the Ruger forum, I do NOT recommend going over size on base pins. There needs to be a little play in the base pin for proper alignment and timing of the cylinder to keep it in factory specs. Going oversize messes with that spec at your peril. By all means, get a standard size base pin if you're not happy with the design of the factory pin, but be cautious about going with an oversized pin. If nothing else, it will void the factory warranty.

[ESquared]

I didn't intend to overstate things, and I don't know that I'd call this new basepin "oversized." I'll mic 'em both up and report back...

[North Country Gal]

Belt Mountain sells pins in both standard and oversize options, so be sure to check when ordering.

[ESquared]

When I ordered mine, there was no discussion about standard vs. oversized. I sold him what Uberti I had and he immediately responded by offering the one he said would be the "right one." I mic'ed them both and the Belt Mtn one is maybe half a thousandth bigger.

[CT_Shooter]

This is an interesting discussion.

I can confirm from an early experience with my SmokeWagon that firing a Uberti Colt clone with the base pin safety notch engaged will damage the pin by creating a burr on the notched end, making it extremely difficult to remove. If that ever happens, the best way to remove the pin is by using a small punch to push it out from the hole located below the hammer and then smooth the burr.

I no longer engage the safety on my SmokeWagon; rather, I got into the habit of loading 1, skipping 1, loading four and dropping the hammer on an empty cylinder. And, I've never had the base pin move on its own into the safety position.

[ESquared]

This is an interesting discussion.

I can confirm from an early experience with my SmokeWagon that firing a Uberti Colt clone with the base pin safety notch engaged will damage the pin by creating a burr on the notched end, making it extremely difficult to remove. If that ever happens, the best way to remove the pin is by using a small punch to push it out from the hole located below the hammer and then smooth the burr.

That sounds like a pain, especially since you have to remove the pin to take the cylinder out, which you need to do to properly clean the firearm.

I believe that what I've done will alleviate the issue. Will watch things closely, but I would think that half a thousandth is within the tolerances of either basepin (original vs. my replacement), but, if a problem arises, I can follow the practice you describe and just not push the original in all the way, avoiding the safety notch altogether.

[CT_Shooter]

That sounds like a pain, especially since you have to remove the pin to take the cylinder out, which you need to do to properly clean the firearm.

You're right. It only takes once to learn from the mistake. Since then, I've never had any difficulty removing the pin.