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Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:24 am
by dave77
Planning on getting a Blackhawk .357/9mm convertable. LGS had a std. Blackhawk .357 I held today, felt good. Saw online that another local LGS has the convertible model with a short barrel in stock but the first store can have one in either size in stock in about a week for around $40 less.
I don't have much experience with revolvers, only have owned a .38 2" barrel undercover so was wondering what size barrel you people with more revolver experience would recommend.
http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelB ... odels.html
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:49 am
by Abnermal
I've got two .357 Blackhawks. One in 4 5/8 and one in 6.5. Accuracy wise I like the 6.5 plus I got that one on a 10 dollar raffle ticket. For ease of carry I like the shorter barrel. Haven!t shot them since the last cowboy match. That's been over a year ago. Might get one out next time I go to the range. I think the convertible thing would be neat. 9 mill ammo is a whole lot cheaper than .357 Magnum! I'd go for it if I were you.
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:41 am
by Steve51
I will weigh in on this topic but personal preference has a lot to do with that decision. I have 3 Ruger single action revolvers (single six, blackhawk, and super blackhawk). My single six and blackhawk both have 6.5" barrels. I bought the super blackhawk last and was sure I wanted a shorter barrel, so I bought the 5.5" barrel model.
For me, I would not want one with a barrel shorter than 5.5" or one with a barrel greater than 6.5". For me, personally, I think the 6.5" barrel blackhawk is a good all purpose revolver. I have no intentions of parting with mine.
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:01 pm
by North Country Gal
No wrong choice. Have owned both lengths in Ruger SAs and others, beside. Really depends on your use or what you want out of your gun. Will this be a range gun? target gun? carry gun?
Note that there are other differences in Ruger 357 SAs to consider.
The standard New Model Blackhawk in blue uses an aluminum grip frame. The stainless NM Blackhawk uses a steel grip frame. The difference in weight does produce a different feel to the gun.
The standard NM Blackhawk in 357 is built on the large Ruger SA frame which is heavier than needed for the 357. The NM Vaqueros and, especially if you want the convertible, that Lipsey's 5247 Flat top, are built on the medium Ruger SA frame. Still strong enough to handle the heaviest 357 mag loads, but closer to a Colt in handling than the standard NM 357.
Sorry to get off topic, so when it comes to barrel length, my favorite do everything, all around length in a single action revolver in 357 or 45 Colt is the 4 1/2" (or 4 5/8" in the Ruger) or even the 5 1/2". If you plan to carry the gun for any length of time, the 4 5/8" is an especially nice choice, but it is still a fun to shoot range gun. For strictly paper pinching at longer distances or for hunting, the 6 1/2" is a great choice.
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:42 pm
by dave77
I'm getting it to carry when I'm shooting my BBB, so won't be carrying it for long periods of time or in a vehicle, have my PX4 for that. Will be mainly using it for plinking and paper targets out to 25 yds. Really like that it will also shoot 9mm, 1/2 the price of .357 and should be fine for plinking. Hoping I can sight it in for 25 yds with .357 and just adjust the sight picture for shorter range shots with the 9mm.
I'm kind of leaning toward the 6.5 barrel so will probably have them order one. When I finally decide I want a certain gun I hate waiting, I have a concealed carry permit so at least I don't have to wait once it comes in.
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:55 pm
by BigAl52
I have 3 short barrel models a 44,357 and a 41. I have a 45colt 45cp convertible in the 5.5 barrel length. I really like the short barrels and all of mine shoot very good. I think its a matter of preference myself. I just like the way the short barrel looks. Al
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:19 am
by JEBar
agree on the importance of personal preference .... my first Ruger revolver was a '60's era 44 Mag Blackhawk with long barrel .... I don't remember exactly, the barrel had to be somewhere between 7 & 9" .... it performed flawlessly, I took my first Black Bear with it .... it simply wasn't a good fit for me and I wasn't sorry to see it go .... I've owned a bunch of revolvers since then and have found that for hunting, I still prefer longer barrels (my Redhawk model 5003 has a 7.5" barrel) .... for a 357 fun, range shooter, I prefer 4 to 5" barrels .... my recommendation would be to make an effort to try different ones, by doing so you can make your decision based what proves to best meet your wants/needs
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:14 pm
by tx gunrunner
Here is my 44-40's in 3 different barrel length . I had two 7.5 so I cut one down to 3.5 and kept the other 7.5 for hunting . The two in 1 one pic are my SASS /CAS which are 4 5/8 . All these gun were shoot with same ammo I custom make . These are all test fire targets after cutting the forcing cones to 11 degrees . I normal shoot these guns on steel and these are the only paper target I ever shoot with them . Personally I don't see a difference in the targets only the feel of the guns different . The 4 5/8 I shoot much better in a match then the two 7 1/2 for speed and handling .
Re: Blackhawk - holster
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:11 am
by dave77
So, I ordered the Blackhawk 357/9mm 6.5" today, may be here by the end of the week. I hate waiting but with my CCP I can pick it up as soon as it comes in.
Now I have to find a decent holster. Not sure if I want just a holster or a full cowboy rig. Just looking around a bit and found this, looks decent and is not too expensive at under $200 if I decide to go full cowboy.
http://www.mernickleholsters.com/b_west ... /aws1.html
Any other suggestions are more than welcome.
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:03 am
by tx gunrunner
I like these holster . I got the guns and holster from Tx Jack [ owns Cimarron ]
https://www.texasjacks.com/guns-n-stuff.html
Re: Blackhawk - holster
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:31 pm
by Conax
dave77 wrote:So, I ordered the Blackhawk 357/9mm 6.5" today, may be here by the end of the week. I hate waiting but with my CCP I can pick it up as soon as it comes in.
Now I have to find a decent holster. Not sure if I want just a holster or a full cowboy rig. Just looking around a bit and found this, looks decent and is not too expensive at under $200 if I decide to go full cowboy.
http://www.mernickleholsters.com/b_west ... /aws1.html
Any other suggestions are more than welcome.
I got a deal on an old .44 Blackhawk from a rancher in Utah. He threw in a beeyootiful, worn smooth western rig for it that it had been carried in for years. He and I were both left handed, so it was almost a miracle.
I strutted around looking all authentic in that rig. The gun was smiling, being in its rightful place.
Maybe a trip to your local gunshow would be an idea.. A well worn rig that fits your gun (Rugers will fit in almost any of them) could be had for a lot less money and look soo classy since it's not all stiff and new.
That's where I would start to find some servicable leather at a fair price.
Nice gun!
I liked my old .357 Ruger but it was just a 4". I carried it crossdraw on the off side.
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:52 pm
by tx gunrunner
I had these holster made in a vintage pattern for my 44-40 and use them for 16 year in cowboy action shooting .
Re: Blackhawk - holster
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:20 pm
by NoFlyZone
dave77 wrote:So, I ordered the Blackhawk 357/9mm 6.5" today, may be here by the end of the week. I hate waiting but with my CCP I can pick it up as soon as it comes in.
Congrats, good luck with your new Blackhawk. I think you will love it.
I have the Lipsey's Flattop 5.5 barrel and its an awesome revolver in both .357 and 9mm.
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Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:02 pm
by RanchRoper
Nice matched set TGR.
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:52 pm
by tx gunrunner
Here my 357 with Ruger custom grips , powers free spin , Super blackhawk target hammer . wolf springs , reshape ft sight and forcing cone cut to 11 degrees and it for sale . I have the box too . less than 50 round shot in it .
Re: Blackhawk - short or long barrel
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:19 pm
by dave77
Ordered this holster today, saw some for less $ but I really like the looks of this one. Maybe I'll get the matching cartridge belt next year. I've already gone over my gun and gun accessories budget for this year.
http://www.mernickleholsters.com/b_west ... /awh2.html