Are you a revolver snob?

[Bill.68]

My how times change. I didnt know wolffe offered taurus kits.

I think springs such as those reduced power springs have a place in the revolver "tuning" world but their use an also lead to some deadly issues, like not setting off the ammunition. So I dont think theyre the best thing to go changing out willnilly. To me tuning a revolver entails removing the sideplate, the slide rebound, hammer, trigger and checking for rough surfaces, sears, pins, springs last.
Dont get me wrong, springs can make things move easier but they will still have the same everything else. Im probably not explaining what I am trying to say but its early and my coffee cup is still full.

[BrokenolMarine]

I agree, the problem I had with messing with springs to "adjust" trigger pull is when amateur gun plumbers cut coils off springs to lighten the pull, then carried that gun as an EDC, without reliability testing.

My guy DID smooth and polish everything in the appropriate locations when we did the trigger jobs on the 642 and 340, but it had been too long for me to remember exactly what to polish and NOT to polish. Plus, on new guns, l like to see several hundred rounds fired before a real trigger job. I didn't have my guy here, since he is in VA and we moved to OK.

The one thing we always do is test fire the guns after any maintenance. So the spring kits improved the trigger pull, but didn't impede function.

[Bill.68]

And its not just polishing, its checking for rub marks here and there, alignment of certain parts, timing of parts, gaps, movements, angles and so on. Every parts in a revolver effects all of the other parts.
What I hate seeing is guys using a strain screw as a tuning tool, either backing them out or worse filing them.
Myself, I absolutely love working on revolvers but then I have all of the proper tools and jigs to do a pretty high level job. Ive totally worked 7 so far and I let a friend of mines father shoot a few of my 357's recently, he is retired LE in Nevada who was visiting for the Holidays and he said he carried revolvers for most of his career and he had never felt a better action in a revolver. I thanked him.

[The Wiz]

I have 4 revolvers and 1 semi. What does that tell you?

[BrokenolMarine]

And its not just polishing, its checking for rub marks here and there, alignment of certain parts, timing of parts, gaps, movements, angles and so on. Every parts in a revolver effects all of the other parts.
What I hate seeing is guys using a strain screw as a tuning tool, either backing them out or worse filing them.
Myself, I absolutely love working on revolvers but then I have all of the proper tools and jigs to do a pretty high level job. Ive totally worked 7 so far and I let a friend of mines father shoot a few of my 357's recently, he is retired LE in Nevada who was visiting for the Holidays and he said he carried revolvers for most of his career and he had never felt a better action in a revolver. I thanked him.

When a good revolver guy tunes one, you can surely tell it's been done right. Our PPC Smith did my Model 64. The Double Action pull was like oil on glass. I shot it in Duty Revolver Class in PPC and won, a lot. Makes all the difference. You had to shoot stock guns, you could only change the grips. I beat a lot of other shooters shooting beautiful adjustable sighted guns.

Both the Model 64s below were department issued guns. I bought them when we transitioned to the Glocks. The 4" guns were issued to line officers and I bought mine. The 2" guns were issued to the brass for carry when they were in Suits for court or Board Meetings and other formal occasions.

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I shot them in the PPC matches for Service and Off Duty guns. I still shoot them today as they are a pleasure to shoot.

[daytime dave]

Those are two great .38s marine. Both are capable guns. I like the grips on both. I'm also glad to hear that you beat a lot of the fellows with adjustable sights. Most fixed sighted Smith and Wessons are on from the factory in my experience. I prefer fixed sights on handguns, if I can have them.

[North Country Gal]

I like fixed sight revolvers, too, assuming they are reasonably close to my point of aim. One of my favorites (and one of those I should not have sold, too), was a S&W Model 10 Classic. Yes, it had the lock, but absolutely one of the most pleasant to shoot and accurate 38 revolvers I've owned.

[Bill.68]

I mourn every time I have a good firearm depart. Thats why I dont sell many or buy so-called "cheap" guns but the now teo I considering may be worth the gamble. The rossi rp63 (hoping they release a blued or at least a black oxide version) and most recently spied Centurion 14 BHP clone. The more I learn about those the absolutely more impressed I am. All steel with apparently fantastic machining exceeding FNs work or at least on par and no MIM parts no sit, all forged or tool stock steel. The thing is this is supposed to be a budget friendly firearm purchase so an original is out and Springfield Armory will never get any money from me so this BHP, Centurion 15 is becoming bery attractive but then again the Rossi 357 would not be looked down on and another 357mag, especially a small, 6 shot model be very attractive. Theyre both about the same price.

[rickhem]

I can remember reading about Taurus in one of the gun mags a long time ago. It said that Taurus was a Brazilian tool and die company, and was purchased by S&W for a bit. The influence on the revolvers is obvious. Then, after Smith sold it back, Beretta bought in to fulfil military contracts in Brazil. The Taurus autos show that lineage as well. So despite Taurus being often thought of as a second tier firearm, they have been part of two of the top global companies, and have benefited from technology transfer to their manufacturing processes. All very positive attributes for Taurus!

Taurus often goes with designs that are new and innovative, almost like concept cars you see at big car shows. This has worked out well for them. I have an older Taurus that is a twin of the Model 10, and it shoots knots with my 148WC reloads. Unfortunately it's not to my point of aim, the trigger pulls are horrendously heavy, and it's either chrome plated or very bright nickel, really kind of gaudy, so it sits in the safe.

[GFK]

I debated between a Taurus Defender 605 and a Rossi RP63. After reading a few reviews, some noted that the trigger was better on the Rossi. It is not as smooth as my S&Ws or Colt. Yet, I can live with it. As time goes on, I suspect that it will wear in.

[Ernie]

I have been thinking about a 357 revolver so I do like all this good information.
Thanks.

[RanchRoper]

I do like a nice revolver... this one is 45 Colt.

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[North Country Gal]

I've always admired that Colt of yours, RR.

Yeah, a 357 revolver is pretty basic, Ernie. Does just about anything. It's a very useful tool.

Here's my old Ruger Security Six 357. It's somewhere between a K frame and an L frame Smith in size or a Ruger SP-101 and the larger and heavier Ruger GP-100 which replaced it. I like it because it is a sweeter handling gun than a Ruger GP-100. Takes down in seconds. These don't last long when they come up for sale. Pretty it ain't, but it shoots great. Can't wear one of these out.

[Vaquero]

Always liked those but you just don't see many locally.
I think they are of a perfect size da revolver.
I have 2 357 revolvers, SA Ruger Vaquero and an original Colt King Cobra.
I'll find a pic.

RP

[Vaquero]

Let me try this again, the last picture came out all squashed.

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RP

[Vaquero]

I think I have a few that RR will like.
I actually added another 1851a couple years ago, guess I should update the photo.

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RP

[GFK]

Classics are nice. If I can find one at a price that don't hurt, I may pick it up.

[Bill.68]

Well, S&W strikes again.
I went to a shop over in Delaware to pick up some reloading supplies. Standing at the counter to pay I spied a blued model10 under the glass, with an attractive price tag. Asked to see it and upon doing an abbreviated exam I immediately saw that this was like a brand new gun. Its hard to believe how "new" this thing is. I later determined that it was most likely made in the late '70s and as an added bonus, the best bonus with a 10-8 s&w had replace ALL of their tooling to run the new model so the 10-8's are really really nice examples. Remember they had been making this same basic model since 1899 so beginning with all new tooling is great.
The timing is good, b/c gap looks to be about .003-.004, cylinder stop fits all the stop notches perfectly, the bluing is just luxurious, bore and chambers look nice and bright. I could just not find anything wrong with it.
I dont see how people pay the prices of these new models when there are so many nice examples of these originals out there to be had. It may take a little work and patience but theyre out there.

[North Country Gal]

Congrats on the Model 10. It's one of my favorite 38 revolvers.

[Hatchdog]

Went to the range yesterday with two revolvers and two semi’s and the revolvers definitely won the day.

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