Ruger New Bearcat

[bandit1250]

The Mark III is another one that is hot or cold in accuracy. Doesn't seem to be any middle ground. My wife has a Government Competition Mark II "slab side" that is a fantastic shooter. It has a Japan Tasco on it that works flawless and has a mount set up that I have never seen before. I bought her this for Christmas over 20 years ago. I have shot some groups with it that would be equal to quite a few rifles. It has had the trigger worked down to 2lb. and it is fun to shoot. I would only buy a single six if it was older. Here is her Ruger MK. II with our other hand guns. The Colt New Frontier is gone as it was not as accurate as the cheap Heritage.

[tx gunrunner]

The problem is with the SA Rugers 22lr only not any other Ruger 22 they make . The SA action has a .224 barrel for 22 mag/ 22 lr and the Ruger other 22 have a .2225 or .223 barrel which is the correct barrel size for a 22 lr . All there rifles and bottom feeder the chamber are reamed with a chamber reamer , where there SA guns all 6 chamber are drilled at the same time with 6 drill bits not a chamber reamer . That is why a 22 lr will fit in the front or back of Ruger SA 22 cylinder and will not seal the gases in chamber . Drill bits are like $1 each and chamber reamers are like $60 each wholesale and break easy . That how you cut cost and lose Quality .

[Jdl447]

After reading this thread I thought I would get out an H&R 686 that I have and see how cartridges fit the cylinders.

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22 lR drops in , 22 Mags don't, so by my thinking ( and please correct me if I'm wrong) these combo 22's should be thought of as 22 mag revolvers that can also shoot long Rifle?

[Henry88]

The problem is with the SA Rugers 22lr only not any other Ruger 22 they make . The SA action has a .224 barrel for 22 mag/ 22 lr and the Ruger other 22 have a .2225 or .223 barrel which is the correct barrel size for a 22 lr . All there rifles and bottom feeder the chamber are reamed with a chamber reamer , where there SA guns all 6 chamber are drilled at the same time with a drill bit not a chamber reamer . That is why a 22 lr will fit in the front or back of Ruger SA 22 cylinder and will not seal the gases in chamber . Drill bits are like $1 each and chamber reamers are like $60 each wholesale and break easy . That how you cut cost and lose Quality .

Texas GunRunner,

First off, I always appreciate the knowledge and experience that is so obvious in all your posts.

I get it; the 22mag is 1 to 2 1000th of an inch larger than the 22LR. My combo, the Heritage seems to shoot the 22 mag better than the 22lr (accuracy).

So this problem isn't unique to Ruger, but I'll honestly have to educate myself quickly to understand what you're saying about the drill/reamed difference.

More to come.................

[PT7]

If I going buy a center fire revolver I carry a jacket bullet head with me and drop it in all 6 cylinders and use it as a gauge to see if all cylinder chamber size are the same size . See if some drop threw , need light pressure or hard pressure . Pass on gun if they are different sizes . I hope this make sense and help you buy a good gun and not a cheap MADE junker .

]Texas GunRunner,
~~First off, I always appreciate the knowledge and experience that is so obvious in all your posts.
~~Thanks to tx gunrunner for some good head's up.

Ditto-ditto. I agree with Henry88's comments to you, tx gunrunner. Your experience and info to my original post have been quite helpful.
Glad you are on board the Forum as our resident "Firearms Advisor!"

[tx gunrunner]

After reading this thread I thought I would get out an H&R 686 that I have and see how cartridges fit the cylinders.
image.jpg

22 lR drops in , 22 Mags don't, so by my thinking ( and please correct me if I'm wrong) these combo 22's should be thought of as 22 mag revolvers that can also shoot long Rifle?

Well said . A 22 mag that shoots 22lr ...Ruger is NOT the only company that builds there guns that way . I only found Uberti 22 to have .2225 / .223 barrels in there comb gun and REAM there cylinder . I'm a serous shooter and I want super accurate gun shoots good and don't lead up . I don't want a gun that just goes bang . There is some that shoot good but they are very picky on ammo too . Shooting at a beer can and missing it is not a big deal with most shooter and spending more time cleaning lead out of a barrel then shooting it is no big deal either . I want that Bearcat shopkeeper with the birdshead so bad . I when to 10 LGS to find and BUY one and it was a little pricey and I don't care about cost . Checked it out and boy I was very disappointed with ...It has .224 barrel mag barrel and it is a 22lr only and cylinder are drilled and NOT reamed and this is out of Ruger's custom gunshop .... I want a shooter and not a safe Queen .

[PT7]

Appreciate the comments made by everyone...more than I expected! I learned quite a lot of helpful & new info from this thread.
Onward again to the drawing board!!

[RanchRoper]

If I going buy a center fire revolver I carry a jacket bullet head with me and drop it in all 6 cylinders and use it as a gauge to see if all cylinder chamber size are the same size . See if some drop threw , need light pressure or hard pressure . Pass on gun if they are different sizes . I hope this make sense and help you buy a good gun and not a cheap MADE junker .

This is a GREAT tip. Thanks.