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Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:38 pm
by ditto1958
Last week I got myself a new BX trigger for my Ruger 10/22. I installed it, but haven't had an opportunity to try it yet. It will be interesting to see if it makes a difference.

Stock 10/22 triggers tend to leave a bit to be desired, though the one I replaced has seen LOTS of use, to the point where it's really not all that bad. The BX trigger from Ruger is reasonably priced. In think I found mine on sale for $53 and paid about $9 for shipping. We shall see. There are many excellent after-market triggers available for the 10/22, but the problem is that most of them cost more than a new 10/22 rifle. For the kind of shooting I do, I'm not going to spend $200 or more on a trigger for a $200 gun.

Hopefully I can get to the range Wednesday.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:06 pm
by RetiredSeabee
Looking forward to seeing what you think of it. There seem to be a lot of different opinions on the BX. There are also some who I refer to as trigger snobs who swear that if it isn't their preferred trigger it is crap.
Hope it works well for you. And the price certainly was right.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 9:39 am
by Sir Henry
I would call the BX trigger a so-so trigger. Brimstone does a better job modifying the stock trigger for about the same price. Of all the custom 10/22 triggers I have the BX is at the bottom of the list. But its also at the bottom of the price list.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:30 pm
by ditto1958
Well, I got to the range today to try my new trigger. Unfortunately, I forgot to check on my ammo situation, and only had 40 rounds with me. Still, that was plenty enough to confirm that the BX trigger is a substantial improvement over the stock 10/22 trigger. For what I paid for the BX I'm happy.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 6:06 pm
by White Squirrel
Glad to hear that, ditto.

A "good" trigger is like a "good" deal. If you think it is "good", then it is, regardless of what anyone else thinks about it.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:19 pm
by RetiredSeabee
Glad you like the new trigger.
I didn't know that my 10/22 trigger was bad till I started reading numerous comments about how bad other people thought it was. In reality it probably wasn't as bad as most of the ranters seemed to think. But I did start paying more attention to the trigger and found that it was stiff and there was a definite catch before the break. And when it broke I could see the front sight move just slightly.
So I became obsessed with making this bargain priced fun to shoot plinker into a small hole punching target gun. I tried the home remedy polish and tweak trigger jobs. The trigger did improve but still had that catch before the break and slight bobble of the gun. So I opted for the Brimstone Gunsmithing Tier 2 job and had them add a bolt release, sexy silver bolt handle, and Rimfire Tech pull magazine release. Adding about $120 to the investment of a basic $219 plinker.
One of the things I love about the 10/22 is the unending list of aftermarket goodies. You can tweak the basic carbine into whatever you want it to be.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:34 pm
by ditto1958
Oh no... :) I'm not gonna start down that slippery slope!

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 9:24 am
by White Squirrel
ditto1958 wrote:Oh no... :) I'm not gonna start down that slippery slope!
What, you don't want to take a $200 rifle and hang $800 worth of stuff on it? :lol:

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 9:50 am
by Sir Henry
I have over a thousand bucks into several of my $300 Henry. I've done all my trigger work myself but adding scopes, custom large loops and buttstock wraps adds up.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 2:25 pm
by ditto1958
White Squirrel wrote:
ditto1958 wrote:Oh no... :) I'm not gonna start down that slippery slope!
What, you don't want to take a $200 rifle and hang $800 worth of stuff on it? :lol:
Well... it is a terribly slippery slope. I think more like $2,000 is fairly common for guys who can't leave their 10/22's alone.

If I ever do make a custom 10/22, it will likely be a "stealth" build. I would find a walnut sporter stock with good wood, refinish it, and then upgrade everything with parts that are not obviously non-stock.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:04 pm
by Henry88
Virtually every male friend I've had in my life has had a 1022, it seems. I could never warm up to them, never owned a ruger.

I had a Winchester 190 (first gun), and from there went to bolt action 22s until I bought the Henry.

If in the market for a .22 auto, I would get the Marlin M60. For .22's I just like the micro groove barrel.

Good luck with your 1022 ditto..............

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 4:41 pm
by ditto1958
When I got my 10/22, the advice I was given by many people was that it was between the Marlin 60 and the 10/22 when it came to new semi-auto .22 rifles.

I handled them both in stores several times, read everything I could find on the internet, and watched every comparison video there was. In the end, a very respected gunsmith at a good firearms dealer said "buy the 10/22," so I did. I was very happy with it, and still am. It remains my favorite firearm.

However... I soon realized that I just had to have a Marlin 60, too. So I got one.

My conclusions?

The Ruger wins on:
1. Reliability
2. Modularity, and thus
3. Ease of disassembly/reassembly
4. Amazing bullet-proof 10-round rotary magazine
5. Limitless aftermarket for upgrades and customization that may still be larger than the AR-15 aftermarket
6. Customer service

Marlin wins on:
1. Looks
2. Price
3. Trigger (stock vs. stock)

The Marlin loses by a clear margin on reliability. A 10/22 is like a Glock. It generally eats any kind of .22 LR you feed it, and almost never jams. Wet, dry, clean, dirty- doesn't matter. If you get one that does jam, it's broke. You send it back to Ruger and they fix/replace it.

While some Marlin 60's are just as reliable, it's much more likely that they will be finicky, and inconsistent in their reliability. They often need the "nickel trick" adjustment done on the ejector wire. They can be choosy about ammo brands, jam when they're dirty, and jam when they're too wet or too dry.

Marlin 60's are very accurate, and the standard line is that they are more accurate out of the box than a stock 10/22. I've never seen anyone prove that to be true. I suspect that in reality both rifles tend to be about equal. Historically, the Model 60 had two advantages over the Ruger: the stock Marlin triggers are better, and Marlin 60's used to have 22 inch barrels with a longer sight radius than the 18.5 inch 10/22. Current Model 60's come with a 19 inch barrel, so that advantage is gone. Also, most shooters use scopes these days.

In the end, can't go wrong with either rifle. They are inexpensive enough to own at east one of each. My recommendation is to buy both if you can.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:53 am
by Henry88
Wow ditto, you should write for a Online Firearms Magazine, if you don't already.

Having owned neither gun, I must acquiesce to your knowledge. :D

The thing I didn't like about the 1022, was the short, stubby stock. I guess that's the cost of the clip that everyone loves.

The winchester, henry, and marlin are long and thin. I find that much easier to carry. That's really the only reason for my preference.

You may have convinced me otherwise, though..............

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:57 am
by Sir Henry
Dang you ditto, now I want a Marlin.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:48 pm
by ditto1958
Sir Henry wrote:Dang you ditto, now I want a Marlin.
You need one. Get a Glenfield 60 with the squirrel stock. Around here they're usually around $120 in good shape. They are plentiful.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 5:00 pm
by Sir Henry
ditto1958 wrote:
Sir Henry wrote:Dang you ditto, now I want a Marlin.
You need one. Get a Glenfield 60 with the squirrel stock. Around here they're usually around $120 in good shape. They are plentiful.
Sometimes when I'm at my local gun dealer I see stuff like that but don't know enough about them to make an intelligent purchase. Then when I do the research they are gone.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 5:22 pm
by ditto1958
I think with something like a used Model 60, I'd just shine a light down the bore, try out the trigger and just look at the overall cosmetic condition. There's not much that can go wrong with them. The parts that most commonly need to be replaced are easy to find and cheap. Heck, when you can buy a whole rifle for around $100, you can buy one to shoot, and a second one for parts.

Brand new ones are about $169 At Wal-Mart.

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 7:03 pm
by Sir Henry
I think the new ones have a laminate stock???

Re: Waiting to try my new trigger

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 7:26 pm
by ditto1958
They did for awhile, but now they seem to have gone back to the mystery wood hardwood stock. The laminate stock was actually quite nice looking, but the hardwood stock is the traditional look for the Model 60.