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Will the pump slam fire. Meaning will it continue to fire if you hold the trigger.

Not sure which you are referring to, however, if it does, then it's illegal.

Winchester Model 97 if you hold trigger in and pump it will fire.

Well I could give it a shot!

Never tried to on mine so ????

Pecospete wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:47 pm

Will the pump slam fire. Meaning will it continue to fire if you hold the trigger.

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Pecospete wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:47 pm

Will the pump slam fire. Meaning will it continue to fire if you hold the trigger.

Older models that were designed to do that will. Ithaca, Winchester, and a few others. These are usually referred to as "riot guns" or "trench guns". Newer models (after mid '70s) won't "slam fire" since the lawyer's got into the act and newer pump guns have a disconnector that prevents that. I had an Ithaca Model 37 in VN that did not have a disconnector.

On the Henry 22 pump...hold the trigger back and rack the action and the hammer does fall. Now will it fire a round? Maybe an answer this weekend!

Nope...no fun there...will not fire a round by holding trigger and cycling the pump action. Just tried it in my garage air rifle area using CCI Quiets.
So much for that!

markiver54 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:34 pm

Not sure which you are referring to, however, if it does, then it's illegal.

Ya' know I'd never given any thought to that till you mentioned this. But I'm guessing it's classed as a NFA because of this (the bolded phrase). Is that what you were talking about?

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/shotgun ... ubject-nfa

The NFA defines shotgun, in part, as a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of projectiles (ball shot) or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger.

A shotgun is a firearm subject to the NFA if the shotgun has a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length. A weapon made from a shotgun is also a firearm subject to the NFA if the weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length.

By now you all know , I posted on this about a year and a half ago. The Winchester 61 will and my Winchester 97 shotgun will.

Thanks Fortyshooter

I bet a screw like what The Rifleman had would work. Or if you practice you can shoot very rapid by releasing the trigger for a split second while working the pump. No need to release it before pumping it and no need to wait till it’s fully locked into battery.

You can do the same thing to the H001 but I think it would wear the leading edge of the lever out really fast. I have a few that wore out early learning how to do it so it. Now I keep my trigger finger in the same spot on the lever so the moment the lever is down my finger is on the trigger. It’s works best if you are shooting from the hip although you can shoulder it and do the same thing.

I’m betting you could learn to time it just right on a pump to accomplish the same thing.

I can shoot just as fast as Chuck Connors. My problem is I can’t aim it as good.

One of the most popular shot guns made, Winchester Mod.12, fires every time cycled by holding the trigger in the fire position. Some of the old guns that have worn parts can be damaged when they fire out of battery. I prefer the Remington 870 trigger set up of needing the trigger released every cycle before it will fire.

On his return from Nam, one of my uncles was having trouble finding work. He was told the State Pen was hiring, and giving a veteran's preference. He hustled down. There were fifty applicants for about five positions, but he needed a job, especially one with full state benefits. He filled out the app, and worked his way thru the process. Written test, background, fingerprints, standard stuff. He came in for the interview and was one of a dozen they shunted off to a room to "wait.". After an hour or so, they asked them if they knew how to shoot. No one said no. So, they loaded them all on a bus and drove them to the range.

There they had 1911s, bolt action rifles, and riot guns. A couple of the non-military guys did okay with the rifles and shotguns, but couldn't hit the target frame, let alone the black, at 15 yards, with the handguns.

When my uncle was up with the shotgun, they said load three rounds, and on the sound of the whistle, fire three as fast as you can and still hit the target. He did as he was told. When the whistle blew, he fired. There were two others on the line as well.

The rangemaster asked why he lowered his shotgun after one shot. He told him he fired all three. They looked at his target... Three slam fired slugs in a ragged hole in the center, fired as fast as the others fired one. He grinned at the rangemaster.

"I carried a sawn off pump in Nam..."

He got the job.

Marine, that was a fantastic read! Good for your uncle. Excellent!

The old gun that slam fire ARE NOT ILLEAGAL.

Must have been a model 12 Winchester or a 97 as an 870 won't slam fire.