Summer is here so get out and do some shooting with your Henry or your other firearms

Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

All things reloading here
User avatar
Albertaktm
Tenderfoot
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:50 pm
Location: Western Alberta
Canada

Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by Albertaktm » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:24 pm

I. Bought some 240 grain plated flat nose .429" bullets for my new 44 Henry Big Boy

The load data from the bullet manufacture listed Titegroup , among others, as a powder I could choose. 9 to 10 grains with Mag primers.

I bought it. Now I'm reading it is good for pistols but may be too fast for the longer rifle barrel. I could go get some H110 but I have this so I'd like to use it

Also Hodgdon site say 4.7 grain to 10 grain for this powder.


The joys of a rifle in a pistol round!
0 x

User avatar
Mistered
Drover
Posts: 3373
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:32 pm
Location: Wickiup Junction, OR
United States of America

Re: Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by Mistered » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:06 pm

It will be fine.
Keep your loads toward the medium/high end with it and they'll shoot fine.
I'd probably start with 7 grains.
1 x

User avatar
Albertaktm
Tenderfoot
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:50 pm
Location: Western Alberta
Canada

Re: Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by Albertaktm » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:41 pm

Thanks, that's what I thought. I saw Titegroup appear on a few load data sheets for my bullets so it can be all bad
0 x

Pudsky
Wrangler
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:31 pm
Location: MN
United States of America

Re: Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by Pudsky » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:44 pm

You could always go out and get a sweet 44 revolver and use the powder for that...that would be fun.
1 x

User avatar
Mistered
Drover
Posts: 3373
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:32 pm
Location: Wickiup Junction, OR
United States of America

Re: Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by Mistered » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:01 pm

While a fast powder TIteGroup has s pretty good 'range' of charge weight for some loads and .44 mag is one of them given the 4.7 to 10 grains.

As an example I have shot .38 Specials loaded with 3.5 grains of Bullseye out of my BBB .357 and while potentially too light of a load for a rifle all bullets left the barrel ok. The bullets were lead however and I would have never shot them if they were jacketed.

I recently switched my .45 ACP loads from Unique to TiteGroup and have increased accuracy with a bit lighter recoil.
3 x

User avatar
Albertaktm
Tenderfoot
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:50 pm
Location: Western Alberta
Canada

Re: Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by Albertaktm » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:45 pm

Pudsky wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:44 pm
You could always go out and get a sweet 44 revolver and use the powder for that...that would be fun.

That did cross my mind!
0 x

Ridgerunner665
Cowhand
Posts: 121
Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:13 pm
Location: Northeast TN
United States of America

Re: Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by Ridgerunner665 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:15 pm

Been thinking about Titegroup for my 41 carbine too.... thanks for asking this question that has been in my mind for a while now.
0 x
Henry Big Boy steel carbine 41 Magnum

larry7293
Wrangler
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:08 pm
United States of America

Re: Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by larry7293 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:52 pm

I use Titegroup for 44specials and 44mag. Good accuracy. No problems at all.
1 x

Pitchman1968
Wrangler
Posts: 84
Joined: Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:34 am
Location: Central Massachusetts
United States of America

Re: Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by Pitchman1968 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:49 pm

From the responses, and although I have never used it, it appears that Titegroup is fine for your Big Boy .44 Mag. However, as you get comfortable with your rifle and your reloads, you might want to add a lb. of Accurate #9 to your powder inventory. In the late 1990's, I began using AA #9 when reloading both hunting and plinking loads for my S&W Model 29 .44 Mag which has a 6.5" barrel. In those days I loaded 20 grs. of #9 with a 240 gr Hornady XTP bullet, and consistently had hunting grade accuracy out to 50 yards. When I bought my BBB in 2014 I used that same load for the rifle. It shot 3"-4" groups at 100 yds. but the case was hard to extract from the rifle's chamber. I backed off to 17 grs of AA #9, and that solved the extraction problem. With the lighter charge, I re-sighted in the rifle to 75 yds. and maintained the same size groups.
0 x

Slugnut
Cowhand
Posts: 147
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:23 pm
Location: Long Island, NY (WELFARE STATE)
United States of America

Re: Is Titegroup too fast for a 44 Mag rifle?

Post by Slugnut » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:37 am

I think I read in the new Henry catalogue, the ROT for the 44mag is now 1-20, not 1-38, I could be wrong. This should improve the over all accuracy.
0 x

Post Reply